Samara Martins: to be able to guarantee the same debt system, which is what the Citizen Debt Audit (Auditoria Cidadã da Dívida) talks about.
Samara Martins: It's a system.
They are engineered; it's a mechanism that moves to guarantee the diversion of public resources to the private sector.
Samara Martins: So much so that I don't even know if you knew, but we had the opportunity to carry out an audit in 2015, 2016, by the way.
Samara Martins: At Dilma's time, before she was hit by the coup, there was the opportunity, it was on her desk.