Samara Martins: These oligarchies, they work within corruption, because it's like this: they legalize money to be able to guarantee their investments, their companies, and since companies and banks are all together in the same thing, corruption is inherent to the capitalist system.
Samara Martins: We believe we have to combat corruption.
To the extent that we take that financial, monetary power out of the hands of that class, many of these things fall away, including the secret budget, because there shouldn't be a secret budget.
Desconhecido: Is the secret budget corruption?
Samara Martins: Legalized, in fact, legalized, institutionalized, because, look, I'll give you an example so you can see.