Samara Martins: It needs to be, including through the use of this Brazilian group of ours, which has contributed so much to other countries and which every year updates the public debt data in our country and which is meant to be used.
Samara Martins: So much so that it froze investments in health and education with PEC 95, which is now even proposing to... or to further contingency, with the fiscal framework, which is to guarantee the so-called primary surplus.
So all these savings they say must be made — you can't pay public servants, you have to freeze, you have to cut, you have to defund the SUS, you have to freeze SUS investments to guarantee a primary surplus, which is to pay the interest on the public debt, so that these speculators become ever richer.
Samara Martins: A study by a professor from PUC São Paulo said that a billionaire who invests in the debt can earn 400 thousand reais per day.
Samara Martins: So it's outrageous.