Samara Martins: And they said, we can't do it; if we free the slaves, the country will collapse.
Samara Martins: They insisted on guaranteeing a payout to the slave owners to compensate them.
Very similar to what's being proposed now... for the entrepreneurs: let's guarantee an 'employer stipend' for those who ensure a reduction in working hours.
Samara Martins: And they said it would collapse.
Samara Martins: And we had the experience of a popular organization that was the Quilombo dos Palmares — not just Zumbi, Zumbi became the main reference, but before him there was Caltuna, there was Ganga Zumba, there were several other leaders of that quilombo who fought the Dutch, fought the Portuguese for 100 years.