Samara Martins: So much so that our position is to have a 100% increase in the minimum wage.
Samara Martins: Why?
If you raise people's income instead of credit — because sometimes the government's solution is 'let's increase credit' — 80% of Brazilian households are in debt.
Samara Martins: And they go into debt even to be able to pay for the basic food basket, so much so that supermarkets offer you the option to split the purchase into installments.
Samara Martins: You split your supermarket purchase into four, five installments, next month it'll happen again, next month it'll happen again, next month it'll happen again — it becomes a snowball.