Samara Martins: They are creating their own banks because it's about financial speculation.
Samara Martins: So our position is... the nationalization of the banks, so that the Brazilian people have their money in a state bank, which isn't about ensuring profit, not about making money on the stock market, and would even mean lower interest rates.
Because today, moreover, the independence of the Central Bank has been guaranteed, the autonomy of the Central Bank, and the government... although it has some participation in the details, it's the Central Bank that determines the interest rate we'll pay.
Samara Martins: And it's getting higher and higher, because one of the current government's complaints was that you can't guarantee this interest rate — what destroys our government is that interest rate of Campos Neto.
Samara Martins: Then Galípolo came in and raised the interest rate.