Samara Martins: But it's not exactly profit.
Desconhecido: It is exactly profit.
No, it's not. You create the machinery of how things work, including having these partnerships with other countries—not of exploitation, of pillage, but of collaboration among peoples.
Samara Martins: so that this is, moreover, on an equal footing, and it becomes a social mechanism rather than an exploitative one, and that keeps the system functioning.
Samara Martins: That's exactly it.