Samara Martins: That's the logic.
Samara Martins: Our logic is exactly that.
And it is possible for a country to confront these other powers, let's say, without using the capitalist logic of profit.
Samara Martins: Because if Brazil is necessary for other countries to develop, because they need our raw materials, we can continue being that producer of raw materials without necessarily being focused on profit.
Samara Martins: being organized by the government, being directed by the government.