Samara Martins: But even in our women's movement, in the Olga Benário women's movement, we've been holding, what's it called, self-defense workshops for women.
Samara Martins: Including with other things that aren't lethal weapons sometimes, also because it's expensive to get a gun permit; it's not for everyone.
So one class arms itself, another class doesn't—at least not for defense.
Samara Martins: So [things like] pepper spray, having ways to get out of an attack, so women aren't assaulted.
Samara Martins: So we don't think we should now just rely on the police to defend us, because normally they don't defend us—we're from another class.