Samara Martins: There used to be, in fact, the CONABs, which were the government's storage and supply facilities.
Samara Martins: You had the ABCs here in Minas, I don't know if they existed everywhere, but in Belo Horizonte.
There were the ABCs, which were the fruit-and-vegetable wholesale markets, which were... government-run; in some places we even held a meeting of the pre-candidates in the North and Northeast, in some states there were public government supermarkets, and you can achieve this — if at first you can't take over the production chain, you can still set price anchors, because if at the government-run produce market you offer a price lower, that levels the other prices, because people will want to buy the cheaper option and will go to the supermarket to buy the more expensive one.
Samara Martins: So you gradually level the price of food.
Samara Martins: Today, the production chain, distribution, and retail are all in the hands of businesspeople, not only Brazilians but also foreigners — supermarket chains are in the hands of foreign companies, which dominate the majority of our supermarkets in the states.