Samara Martins: They are experiences of another system that worked while... that maintained their defenses, you know?
Samara Martins: After it opened to others, it started to fall apart.
That's why we think it's possible to dismantle capitalism.
Samara Martins: Just as it was possible to dismantle socialism in the Soviet Union—and that's terrible—and now they're also trying a socialist experiment in Cuba, of course understanding that Brazil's socialist experience is completely different from a socialist experience in the Soviet Union or in Cuba, but that... there is not only one way of economic and social functioning.
Samara Martins: And it is precisely the economic functioning that determines social relations.