Samara Martins: For example, do you need to privatize the river to continue producing soy?
Samara Martins: You don't need to.
But the capitalist logic is that every year profit must be greater.
Samara Martins: So next year it has to be bigger.
Samara Martins: Next year it has to be... That's how they, in fact, set the benchmark, right?