Samara Martins: Today, public debt serves to take money away from social sectors.
Samara Martins: And not—because the debt, people say, 'no, it's a loan to be able to develop the country.'
In fact, today we've been relying a lot on the excellent work of the Citizen Debt Audit, with Maria Lúcia Fatorelli, who is a tax auditor who has coordinated it, exactly, and who proposes, furthermore, the Citizen Debt Audit with popular participation in the process, which has even already been.
Samara Martins: She has experiences she lived in Ecuador in 2007, in Greece in 2015, so she has that experience; in Ecuador they reduced their public debt by 70%, including being able to invest more in social sectors, and later I think they took on the debt again, etc., but it is possible to do, and it is constitutional.
Samara Martins: Indeed, not conducting a debt audit is violating the Constitution.