Samara Martins: Without a budget you can't make any of the changes.
Desconhecido: But after it's audited, do you resume payment?
Our idea is to suspend payments to solve the problems initially.
Samara Martins: Later, whether we will need it or not, because today it does not serve our people.
Samara Martins: Today, public debt serves to take money away from social sectors.