What Samara Martins said about seek support from other parties' bases through programmatic proposals

Samara Martins: But we would... Because the issue isn't Lula.

Samara Martins: It's Lula's base.

And then we will win over that base of Lula to say, look, we have this program.

Samara Martins: And we don't negotiate with Lula, because Lula is the person.

Samara Martins: It's not exactly the people who vote for Lula.