Ronaldo Caiado: Also... to cut to the bone, let's be more direct.
Ronaldo Caiado: And the second stage is independent of the STF.
If the situation is taken to the Senate and impeachment is instituted there, authorized, then it is already independent of the STF.
Ronaldo Caiado: I am saying that it is up to the STF to make a larger gesture.
Ronaldo Caiado: What is the gesture?