Ronaldo Caiado: What is the gesture?
Ronaldo Caiado: For example, I have had in my party problems with scandals involving deputies and senators, a governor.
who, at one point, was forced to be told, look, I'm sorry, you can no longer remain within the party's ranks.
Ronaldo Caiado: Look, I'm not making a pre-judgment, you'll be judged later.
Ronaldo Caiado: Now, this practice is when you have a collegial body.