Romeu Zema: And I, as a candidate, have fought against these untouchables.
Romeu Zema: And now I am outraged by the position of our president, who doesn't criticize... who does little about it, and now, approaching the election, is even launching populist measures.
We cannot have Lula leading Brazil for the next four years; otherwise, this continues.
Rogério Vilela: Thank you, Zema.
Rogério Vilela: Zema, debuting in debates here too, right?