Pablo Marçal: I wanted to come here and not have to talk to you about Renan or anyone — it’s not necessary, man.
Pablo Marçal: We can certainly look and say, shall we aim at just one thing?
Let’s break this cycle, man, of 23 years of PT?
Pablo Marçal: Just break it.
Pablo Marçal: No, there was Bolsonaro, let me tell you, there was Bolsonaro because Lula went to jail.