Pablo Marçal: As Lula himself said, "the PT is shit, but it's my shit."
Pablo Marçal: October 4 is the time to press; there's a little white box — that private attached box you'll press — and actually it's the ballot box, right?
You're going to flush that thing Lula talked about.
Pablo Marçal: Just flush it and we'll free ourselves and break this cycle.
Desconhecido: Speaking of Lula... You mentioned the fiscal hole that Lula is leaving in the country.