Marcos Rogério: And I repeat: I am not defending Your Excellency, I am pointing to the facts — I am pointing to the facts — and these facts need and deserve to be investigated, but it is fair to ask — it is fair to ask — why this is happening precisely after Your Excellency took that position.
Marcos Rogério: So, there are two reflections, and here I do not know whether the Federal Senate will have access, because, if the two cooperation proposals were rejected, they do not exist from a formal, material point of view, but it is necessary to look at what is being said, because it is said they were rejected because there is no confession of crime...
But the report says that there was a payment abroad.
Marcos Rogério: Well, isn't that a crime? Wouldn't that be evidence of a crime?
Marcos Rogério: Wouldn't that be evidence of a confession of crime?