Desconhecido: to the development of the State.
Desconhecido: How to make it work?
Edilene, it's not that it didn't take off, it's that unfortunately it got stuck in the state's bureaucracy.
Gabriel Azevedo: That's very sad.
Gabriel Azevedo: I spoke with the president of NTT and he showed me clearly how each of the more than 20 short-rail or short-line projects run by the private sector are depending on the desk of some civil servant here in the government of Minas Gerais.