Fernando Haddad: So we need to be clear with the population.
Fernando Haddad: We have to end impunity.
This 5% figure has to rise to 20 and then to 50 and reach very high levels.
Fernando Haddad: So that someone thinks ten times before committing a crime because they know they'll be caught.
Fernando Haddad: If a person doesn't think they'll be caught, they'll continue.