Fernando Haddad: And we are punishing less than 5% of the crimes committed in São Paulo.
Fernando Haddad: So all this talk you hear at home — let's increase the penalty, let's double the penalty.
You double it on paper, but in practice there's no actual punishment happening.
Fernando Haddad: So it's a smokescreen.
Fernando Haddad: Look, it won't be five years anymore, it'll be fifteen years now.