Fernando Haddad: So, does he have the moral authority to talk about default?
Fernando Haddad: For God's sake.
They were the biggest defaulters in Brazil's history.
Fernando Haddad: We paid, just in 2023, among the default on precatórios (92 billion), the default to the governors (30), and the Bolsa Família default (50)?
Fernando Haddad: How much does that come to?