Fernando Haddad: But, in any case, start integrating.
Fernando Haddad: You have to start integrating.
Start with a trial in one city, start a trial in a metropolitan region, keep progressing, keep doing it.
Fernando Haddad: But if one is doing it and handing it off to the other, at some point you'll have integration.
Fernando Haddad: This harms people's lives a lot.