Cleitinho Azevedo: But what I want to make very clear here, for you who are coming here: have you ever been in debt in your life?
Cleitinho Azevedo: If you've ever been in debt... If you want to pay what you owe, you won't go around pointing fingers, you won't fight with the person you owe.
So that's what the state government has to do with the federal government.
Cleitinho Azevedo: The main proposal in this situation of the state's debt renegotiation is to have dialogue with the federal government, regardless of who the president will be in 2027.
Cleitinho Azevedo: Whether it's a re-elected Lula, Flávio Bolsonaro, Zema, Caiado, or Renan Santos, we have to dialogue, sit down and talk.