Desconhecido: I would split BNDES in two.
Desconhecido: In the first instance, the bank for large companies and a bank for microenterprises.
I would even use the money from Petrobras' dividends, which goes to the government's coffers to plug holes, because the government ends up being a spendthrift, so that we could, at least, finance one million microenterprises with Petrobras' dividends.
Desconhecido: Candidate, when you talk about supporting the means, these entrepreneurs, we also run into another discussion, which is pejotization.
Desconhecido: Because today what you see is a very common reaction among businesses, even in the face of bureaucracy, high costs, and taxes for the entrepreneur.