Desconhecido: So we have to encourage them to develop that entrepreneurial vein and that desire to have a place in the sun in a highly suffocating society.
Augusto Cury: Does Bolsa Família encourage poverty?
Bolsa Família... It is important, it loves poverty, but it doesn't love the poor, because it perpetuates the poor in poverty, because you continue with financial difficulty.
Desconhecido: So we want Bolsa Família to exist, but people who signed a work contract, opened a microenterprise, should be able to supplement their income.
Augusto Cury: So do you propose a reduction, for example, of social programs, the BPC and other existing programs?