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buenos días, sea muy bienvenida, sea muy bienvenido a una nueva Sabatina promovida por UOL y Folha de São Paulo, esta asociación por la democracia brasileña, por las elecciones de 2026.",0.54,14.12,30,false,{"idx":75,"utterance_id":76,"speaker_name":68,"text":77,"start_s":78,"end_s":79,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},1,"223896","Como usted sabe, nuestra misión aquí es ayudarle a elegir a quién quiere al mando de Brasil para los próximos cuatro años.",14.26,22.26,24,{"idx":82,"utterance_id":83,"speaker_name":68,"text":84,"start_s":85,"end_s":86,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},2,"223897","Invitamos a todos los precandidatos, a los candidatos a la presidencia de la República a participar de esta Sabatina.",22.3,28.36,14,{"idx":89,"utterance_id":90,"speaker_name":68,"text":91,"start_s":92,"end_s":93,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},3,"223898","Y nuestro candidato de hoy... 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Libre.",76.34,94.96,40,{"idx":141,"utterance_id":142,"speaker_name":68,"text":143,"start_s":144,"end_s":145,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},11,"223906","el conocido MBL.",95.42,96.84,{"idx":147,"utterance_id":148,"speaker_name":68,"text":149,"start_s":150,"end_s":151,"word_count":59,"indexable":73},12,"223907","El movimiento ganó mucha proyección en todo Brasil al organizar manifestaciones en defensa de la Operación Lava Jato contra el gobierno de Dilma.",97.22,104.92,{"idx":94,"utterance_id":153,"speaker_name":68,"text":154,"start_s":155,"end_s":156,"word_count":157,"indexable":73},"223908","Él fue uno de los responsables también por articular lo que quedó conocido como el Comité del Impeachment, que impulsó el proceso de destitución de la entonces presidenta.",105.38,114.74,27,{"idx":87,"utterance_id":159,"speaker_name":68,"text":160,"start_s":161,"end_s":162,"word_count":108,"indexable":73},"223909","Y hoy es él quien quiere estar en ese cargo, él quien quiere la presidencia de la 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Exgobernadores, el de Goiás, Manoel do Caiado, de Minas Gerais, el Zema, hoy está incluso por delante del Zema.",349.02,361,{"idx":507,"utterance_id":508,"speaker_name":68,"text":509,"start_s":510,"end_s":511,"word_count":27,"indexable":73},75,"223970","Pero Augusto Cury se separó de ese grupo y, en un primer debate en TV Bandeirantes, hubo un momento en que él... se dijo asombrado por su agresividad, por su violencia verbal.",361.8,377.98,{"idx":513,"utterance_id":514,"speaker_name":68,"text":515,"start_s":516,"end_s":517,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},76,"223971","Allí exhibe un estilo que hizo que creciera, que se separara.",378.52,382.82,{"idx":519,"utterance_id":520,"speaker_name":68,"text":521,"start_s":522,"end_s":523,"word_count":179,"indexable":73},77,"223972","No tiene ninguna posibilidad, aparentemente, de llegar al segundo turno, pero él se separó de ese bloque en el que usted se encuentra.",382.84,389.32,{"idx":525,"utterance_id":526,"speaker_name":68,"text":527,"start_s":528,"end_s":529,"word_count":48,"indexable":73},78,"223973","¿No cree que su agresividad... contribuye a ese desaliento, a ese torpor del elector que mira en busca de una alternativa y no encuentra?",389.76,401.36,{"idx":531,"utterance_id":532,"speaker_name":68,"text":533,"start_s":534,"end_s":535,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},79,"223974","¿La agresividad es el mejor camino?",401.58,403.26,{"idx":537,"utterance_id":538,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":539,"start_s":540,"end_s":541,"word_count":174,"indexable":73},80,"223975","Voy a discrepar, Josias, de tu análisis de que... 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Es un momento definitorio de la historia de Brasil, estamos hablando de una crisis democrática en Brasil, estamos hablando de un problema institucional gigantesco en Brasil, estamos hablando de Brasil perdiendo espacio en las cadenas globales de producción, estamos hablando del crimen organizado tomando ciudades enteras y, al mismo tiempo, la gente no discutiendo y tomando, digamos, no una posición política ideológica, como ocurrió en el 22.",462.92,482.8,{"idx":635,"utterance_id":636,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":637,"start_s":638,"end_s":639,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},95,"223990","Hago esa diferenciación, Josias, entre el 22 y ahora, porque en el 22, por más que tuvieras los dos polos ahí, estaban en conflicto.",482.82,489.44,{"idx":641,"utterance_id":642,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":643,"start_s":644,"end_s":645,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},96,"223991","El debate político estaba encarnizado en 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antipetista.",538.06,543.24,{"idx":749,"utterance_id":750,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":751,"start_s":752,"end_s":753,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},114,"224009","Y es difícil explicar esto, pero los bolsonaros no son el reclamo del bolsonarismo.",543.32,548.66,{"idx":755,"utterance_id":756,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":757,"start_s":758,"end_s":759,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},115,"224010","Tienes al de Nicolas, a Michelle, el propio ascenso nuestro dentro del antipetismo es un universo aparte.",549.02,554.86,{"idx":761,"utterance_id":762,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":763,"start_s":764,"end_s":765,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},116,"224011","Y entonces perdieron... esa energía, pero al mismo tiempo ese elector considera que, digamos, el modo estándar de voto antipetista todavía era un 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electores.",{"idx":809,"utterance_id":810,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":811,"start_s":812,"end_s":813,"word_count":287,"indexable":73},123,"224018","Hay un elemento, como es una campaña en la que la gente no está hablando de política, hoy tengo la base más comprometida, la Palver, que ahora es un instituto de investigación, incluso hizo encuestas para Folha.",593.72,601.54,{"idx":815,"utterance_id":816,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":817,"start_s":818,"end_s":819,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},124,"224019","La Palver —yo tengo la base más comprometida y más activa en redes sociales—.",601.94,605.6,{"idx":821,"utterance_id":822,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":823,"start_s":824,"end_s":825,"word_count":15,"indexable":73},125,"224020","Creo que eso en la recta final va a hacer una diferencia muy grande, porque las familias y los grupos sociales no están discutiendo política y quien discute... siempre hay alguien que me apoya.",605.92,614.04,{"idx":827,"utterance_id":828,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":829,"start_s":830,"end_s":831,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},126,"224021","Entonces la tendencia es que tenga un efecto multiplicador con eso, que va a hacer diferencia ahora en las próximas semanas.",614.06,618.56,{"idx":833,"utterance_id":834,"speaker_name":68,"text":835,"start_s":836,"end_s":837,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},127,"224022","Hay un cansancio de la población con esta disputa.",619.18,621.14,{"idx":839,"utterance_id":840,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":841,"start_s":842,"end_s":843,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},128,"224023","Sí, pero en ese sentido el cansancio me beneficia.",621.24,623.82,{"idx":845,"utterance_id":846,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":847,"start_s":848,"end_s":849,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},129,"224024","Porque si hay un cansancio en ambos polos y mi elector no está cansado, la tendencia a que tenga un efecto multiplicador es mayor.",624.38,631.48,{"idx":851,"utterance_id":852,"speaker_name":68,"text":853,"start_s":854,"end_s":855,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},130,"224025","Pero su posibilidad de llegar a la segunda vuelta, según todas las encuestas, es rarísima.",631.7,635.98,{"idx":857,"utterance_id":858,"speaker_name":68,"text":859,"start_s":860,"end_s":861,"word_count":133,"indexable":73},131,"224026","En caso de que usted realmente no pase a la segunda vuelta, ¿declarará su apoyo a Flávio Bolsonaro, que comparte algo de sus características o no?",636.4,644.44,{"idx":863,"utterance_id":864,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":865,"start_s":866,"end_s":867,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},132,"224027","No tengo ninguna característica de Flávio Bolsonaro.",644.88,646.78,{"idx":869,"utterance_id":870,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":871,"start_s":872,"end_s":873,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},133,"224028","No soy ladrón.",646.92,647.54,{"idx":61,"utterance_id":875,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":876,"start_s":877,"end_s":878,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},"224029","Flávio Bolsonaro es estúpido, es un cobarde.",648.96,650.94,{"idx":880,"utterance_id":881,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":882,"start_s":883,"end_s":884,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},135,"224030","No tengo esas características, por el amor de Dios, Flávio, no me ofendas.",651,653.7,{"idx":886,"utterance_id":887,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":888,"start_s":889,"end_s":890,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},136,"224031","No tengo, así, yo...",655.26,656.32,{"idx":892,"utterance_id":893,"speaker_name":68,"text":894,"start_s":895,"end_s":896,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},137,"224032","Pero usted es más de derecha que de izquierda, ¿no?",656.5,658.42,{"idx":898,"utterance_id":899,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":900,"start_s":901,"end_s":902,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},138,"224033","Sí, pero eso, como categoría, no me encaja en algo similar a él, porque creo que él está, desde el punto de vista cualitativo, en otra categoría.",659.02,667.38,{"idx":904,"utterance_id":905,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":906,"start_s":907,"end_s":908,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},139,"224034","Flávio Bolsonaro es un bandido de la política.",667.4,668.72,{"idx":910,"utterance_id":911,"speaker_name":68,"text":912,"start_s":913,"end_s":914,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},140,"224035","¿Descartada la posibilidad de apoyarlo?",668.74,670.42,{"idx":50,"utterance_id":916,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":917,"start_s":918,"end_s":919,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},"224036","Descartada la posibilidad de que yo apoye a cualquier persona que no sea yo.",670.8,673.5,{"idx":921,"utterance_id":922,"speaker_name":68,"text":923,"start_s":924,"end_s":925,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},142,"224037","¿En la segunda vuelta?",674.2,674.84,{"idx":927,"utterance_id":928,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":929,"start_s":930,"end_s":931,"word_count":304,"indexable":73},143,"224038","Estaré en la segunda vuelta, solo trabajo con esa posibilidad, tengo a una masa de miles de personas, cientos de miles de personas movilizadas en mi campaña, y creo que eso marcará la diferencia en el momento oportuno.",676.04,686.1,{"idx":933,"utterance_id":934,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":935,"start_s":936,"end_s":937,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":938,"topic_label":939,"target_id":940,"target_proposition":941,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":943,"rationale":944,"indexable":615},144,"224039","Jamás trabajaré con la hipótesis de unirme a alguno de esos grupos políticos, porque son corruptos.",686.82,691.1,"aliancas-politicas","Alianzas políticas","c39ae8f8-5d71-4f70-a651-10f241be19f0","hacer alianzas políticas para obtener cargos","contra",0.92,"declara 'jamais vou trabalhar' con esos grupos porque 'são corruptos'.",{"idx":946,"utterance_id":947,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":948,"start_s":949,"end_s":950,"word_count":181,"indexable":73},145,"224040","De hecho, mi grupo político es muy atacado dentro de la derecha, porque no nos sometemos.",691.38,695.14,{"idx":952,"utterance_id":953,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":954,"start_s":955,"end_s":956,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},146,"224041","Voy a echar un vistazo a la campaña de Zema.",696.36,698,{"idx":958,"utterance_id":959,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":960,"start_s":961,"end_s":962,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},147,"224042","En gran medida, o Partido Novo fue tomado por ese espíritu de, mira, vamos a dialogar con el bolsonarismo.",698.28,704.3,{"idx":964,"utterance_id":965,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":966,"start_s":967,"end_s":968,"word_count":110,"topic_slug":938,"topic_label":939,"target_id":969,"target_proposition":970,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":971,"indexable":73},148,"224043","No existe diálogo con el bolsonarismo.",704.36,705.82,"8a5ea550-2b2f-43fa-9945-b1138e37e7a4","dialogar con el bolsonarismo","afirma explícitamente 'Não existe diálogo' y 'Não se negocia' con el bolsonarismo.",{"idx":973,"utterance_id":974,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":975,"start_s":976,"end_s":977,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},149,"224044","No se negocia con la cabeza dentro de la boca de un tigre.",706.1,708.72,{"idx":38,"utterance_id":979,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":980,"start_s":981,"end_s":982,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},"224045","El bolsonarismo siempre quiere devorarte.",709.02,710.6,{"idx":984,"utterance_id":985,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":986,"start_s":987,"end_s":988,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},151,"224046","Exigen solo sumisión.",710.8,712.16,{"idx":990,"utterance_id":991,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":992,"start_s":993,"end_s":994,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},152,"224047","Es igual al PT (Partido de los Trabajadores) dentro de la izquierda.",712.54,714.02,{"idx":996,"utterance_id":997,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":998,"start_s":999,"end_s":1000,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},153,"224048","El PT (Partido de los Trabajadores) también destruye cualquier alternativa dentro de la izquierda.",714.42,716.62,{"idx":1002,"utterance_id":1003,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1004,"start_s":1005,"end_s":1006,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},154,"224049","Y usted no puede aceptar eso.",716.98,718.12,{"idx":1008,"utterance_id":1009,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1010,"start_s":1011,"end_s":1012,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},155,"224050","Y creo que agua blanda, piedra dura, tanto golpea hasta que perfora.",718.42,721.36,{"idx":1014,"utterance_id":1015,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1016,"start_s":1017,"end_s":1018,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},156,"224051","Vamos a romper esa resistencia.",721.76,722.88,{"idx":1020,"utterance_id":1021,"speaker_name":68,"text":1022,"start_s":1023,"end_s":1024,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},157,"224052","Jato, señor... Puede ir, José.",723.66,726.28,{"idx":1026,"utterance_id":1027,"speaker_name":68,"text":1028,"start_s":1029,"end_s":1030,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},158,"224053","Por favor.",726.3,726.84,{"idx":1032,"utterance_id":1033,"speaker_name":68,"text":1034,"start_s":1035,"end_s":1036,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},159,"224054","Deja que vaya Bruno, ve, Bruno.",726.96,728.22,{"idx":1038,"utterance_id":1039,"speaker_name":68,"text":1040,"start_s":1041,"end_s":1042,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},160,"224055","Por favor, Bruno.",728.46,729.3,{"idx":1044,"utterance_id":1045,"speaker_name":68,"text":1046,"start_s":1047,"end_s":1048,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},161,"224056","Voy a cambiar de tema.",729.5,730.12,{"idx":1050,"utterance_id":1051,"speaker_name":68,"text":1052,"start_s":1053,"end_s":1054,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},162,"224057","En la madrugada, incluso un poco en esa disputa entre Lula y Flávio, usted disputa parte del voto de Flávio en esta primera vuelta.",731.38,739.9,{"idx":1056,"utterance_id":1057,"speaker_name":68,"text":1058,"start_s":1059,"end_s":1060,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},163,"224058","Usted hizo acusaciones serias respecto a su campaña.",740.7,744.1,{"idx":1062,"utterance_id":1063,"speaker_name":68,"text":1064,"start_s":1065,"end_s":1066,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},164,"224059","Usted dijo que su campaña está recibiendo recursos de un grupo en el exterior, un grupo estadounidense ligado al vicepresidente, el J.D.",744.12,753,{"idx":1068,"utterance_id":1069,"speaker_name":68,"text":1070,"start_s":1071,"end_s":1072,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},165,"224060","Vance.",753.12,753.48,{"idx":1074,"utterance_id":1075,"speaker_name":68,"text":1076,"start_s":1077,"end_s":1078,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},166,"224061","Y, en fin, comprobado eso, hay un delito electoral: no se puede tener una candidatura financiada con recursos del exterior.",754.28,762.76,{"idx":1080,"utterance_id":1081,"speaker_name":68,"text":1082,"start_s":1083,"end_s":1084,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},167,"224062","Mi pregunta es: ¿usted tiene pruebas de esas acusaciones?",763.44,765.62,{"idx":1086,"utterance_id":1087,"speaker_name":68,"text":1088,"start_s":1089,"end_s":1090,"word_count":179,"indexable":73},168,"224063","Quisiera que usted explicara un poco más y saber si va a presentar esto ante la justicia electoral y cuándo.",765.64,769.22,{"idx":1092,"utterance_id":1093,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1094,"start_s":1095,"end_s":1096,"word_count":447,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1099,"target_proposition":1100,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":1101,"indexable":615},169,"224064","Tengo pruebas de la relación del grupo que involucra al señor Tales Gomes, que es un coach empresarial ligado a Flávio Bolsonaro, una especie de portavoz de ese grupo, que es un joven llamado Pedro Sangue, y otras personas, tanto con Rockbridge en Estados Unidos, con un sujeto llamado Ryan, a quien todos vigilan, que es el operador político de esto.",770.08,789.56,"financiamento-de-campanha","Financiamiento de campaña","5c9a8e91-6daf-4f9b-9d2d-2fc9071dbe70","investigar el origen del financiamiento de campaña","afirma tener 'provas' de vinculación con Rockbridge y pide investigación.",{"idx":1103,"utterance_id":1104,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1105,"start_s":1106,"end_s":1107,"word_count":48,"indexable":73},170,"224065","Y ese grupo Rockbridge, para que la gente entienda, involucra a empresarios en el área de tecnología y algunos empresarios ahora, curiosamente, quieren invertir en tierras raras.",790.22,797.28,{"idx":1109,"utterance_id":1110,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1111,"start_s":1112,"end_s":1113,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},171,"224066","Uno de los líderes de su board trabaja con Terrazars, una empresa llamada Vulcan.",798.26,804.64,{"idx":1115,"utterance_id":1116,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1117,"start_s":1118,"end_s":1119,"word_count":59,"indexable":73},172,"224067","Y ellos, naturalmente, se están involucrando en la campaña de Flávio porque ven todo esto como una oportunidad de hacer negocios.",806.4,810.7,{"idx":1121,"utterance_id":1122,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1123,"start_s":1124,"end_s":1125,"word_count":193,"indexable":73},173,"224068","Uno de esos muchachos se incorporó a la campaña de Flávio; trabaja dentro de la campaña de Flávio, en el comité de Flávio.",811.64,816.62,{"idx":1127,"utterance_id":1128,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1129,"start_s":1130,"end_s":1131,"word_count":106,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1099,"target_proposition":1100,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":1133,"indexable":615},174,"224069","Montó una empresa recientemente; creo que esa empresa eventualmente puede ser objeto de algún escrutinio en el momento adecuado por parte de la justicia electoral, hasta porque dudo que haya dinero extranjero directamente en la campaña de Flávio.",817.5,828.2,0.85,"sugiere que la empresa constituida 'pode ser alvo de escrutínio' por la justicia electoral.",{"idx":1135,"utterance_id":1136,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1137,"start_s":1138,"end_s":1139,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},175,"224070","Directamente nadie va a hacer eso.",828.4,829.96,{"idx":1141,"utterance_id":1142,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1143,"start_s":1144,"end_s":1145,"word_count":128,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1099,"target_proposition":1100,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":1147,"indexable":73},176,"224071","Ahora, indirectamente, es lo más fácil del mundo.",830.34,832.8,0.7,"afirma que el financiamiento indirecto 'é a coisa mais fácil', justificando la investigación.",{"idx":1149,"utterance_id":1150,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1151,"start_s":1152,"end_s":1153,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1099,"target_proposition":1100,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1154,"rationale":1155,"indexable":615},177,"224072","Entonces, esto necesita ser investigado, porque sí, existe ese trabajo.",833.34,836.02,0.95,"declara claramente 'isso precisa ser investigado'.",{"idx":1157,"utterance_id":1158,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1159,"start_s":1160,"end_s":1161,"word_count":174,"indexable":73},178,"224073","Esa Rockbridge buscó contacto con candidatos brasileños desde mediados hasta finales del año pasado.",836.28,841.36,{"idx":1163,"utterance_id":1164,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1165,"start_s":1166,"end_s":1167,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},179,"224074","Tiene esos contactos.",841.84,842.88,{"idx":1169,"utterance_id":1170,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1171,"start_s":1172,"end_s":1173,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},180,"224075","Ese grupo se define en Brasil como Rockbridge Brasil.",843.44,845.56,{"idx":44,"utterance_id":1175,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1176,"start_s":1177,"end_s":1178,"word_count":293,"indexable":73},"224076","Y lo que estoy diciendo aquí, inclusive Thales Gomes, ese coach, ya lo ha dicho en entrevistas, ya fue a podcasts y dijo que tiene diálogos, porque es un tipo algo pavoneador, quiere aparecer.",845.6,855.96,{"idx":1180,"utterance_id":1181,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1182,"start_s":1183,"end_s":1184,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},182,"224077","Y es esa cosa, ¿no?",856.44,857.28,{"idx":1186,"utterance_id":1187,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1188,"start_s":1189,"end_s":1190,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},183,"224078","El ego a veces destruye las estrategias.",858.72,860.42,{"idx":1192,"utterance_id":1193,"speaker_name":68,"text":1194,"start_s":1195,"end_s":1196,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},184,"224079","¿Va a presentar esto en el TSE (Tribunal Superior Electoral)?",860.58,862.86,{"idx":1198,"utterance_id":1199,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1200,"start_s":1201,"end_s":1202,"word_count":116,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1099,"target_proposition":1100,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":1203,"indexable":73},185,"224080","Primero lo voy a presentar al periodismo.",862.88,864.48,"declara que presentará la información a la prensa primero para investigación.",{"idx":1205,"utterance_id":1206,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1207,"start_s":1208,"end_s":1209,"word_count":287,"indexable":73},186,"224081","Creo que los periodistas tienen que hacer un trabajo, porque ahora estoy en medio de una campaña y no tengo ni equipo ni medios para hacer el trabajo jurídico de transformar esto en una denuncia.",864.54,872.32,{"idx":1211,"utterance_id":1212,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1213,"start_s":1214,"end_s":1215,"word_count":181,"indexable":73},187,"224082","Creo que hay un trabajo investigativo que el periodismo tiene que hacer, no solo brasileño, sino internacional.",872.34,876.36,{"idx":1217,"utterance_id":1218,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1219,"start_s":1220,"end_s":1221,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},188,"224083","Porque esto aquí es un tema grave.",877.38,878.54,{"idx":1223,"utterance_id":1224,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1225,"start_s":1226,"end_s":1227,"word_count":133,"indexable":73},189,"224084","Estoy hablando aquí de recursos nacionales, recursos estratégicos de Brasil; estoy hablando de las tierras raras, que están siendo objeto de negociaciones previas por parte de una campaña presidencial.",879.02,887.74,{"idx":1229,"utterance_id":1230,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1231,"start_s":1232,"end_s":1233,"word_count":174,"indexable":73},190,"224085","Y no cualquier campaña presidencial, una campaña que tuvo su origen en reuniones en Mar-a-Lago, en Estados Unidos.",888.18,893.86,{"idx":1235,"utterance_id":1236,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1237,"start_s":1238,"end_s":1239,"word_count":42,"indexable":73},191,"224086","Flávio se convirtió en candidato a finales del año pasado, en un contexto de deconstrucción de la candidatura de Tarcísio y de un acuerdo que se hizo con el gobierno de Trump.",894.24,901.98,{"idx":1241,"utterance_id":1242,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1243,"start_s":1244,"end_s":1245,"word_count":15,"indexable":73},192,"224087","Sí, hay un interés de lobby gigantesco por parte de grupos empresariales que actúan junto con el gobierno estadounidense, empezando por el propio Joélice Batista, que quiere invertir en esa área en Brasil.",903.22,910.24,{"idx":1247,"utterance_id":1248,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1249,"start_s":1250,"end_s":1251,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},193,"224088","Y esas personas están tratando esos temas de manera abierta dentro de la campaña de un competidor mío, que es vasallo del gobierno Trump.",910.78,917.48,{"idx":1253,"utterance_id":1254,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1255,"start_s":1256,"end_s":1257,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},194,"224089","Creo que eso es vergonzoso.",917.8,918.98,{"idx":11,"utterance_id":1259,"speaker_name":68,"text":1260,"start_s":1261,"end_s":1262,"word_count":174,"indexable":73},"224090","¿Cree usted que esto tiene el poder, incluso, de anular la candidatura de la fórmula de Flávio Bolsonaro, esas denuncias?",919.6,925.24,{"idx":1264,"utterance_id":1265,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1266,"start_s":1267,"end_s":1268,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},196,"224091","No lo sé.",925.28,925.78,{"idx":1270,"utterance_id":1271,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1272,"start_s":1273,"end_s":1274,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},197,"224092","Entonces yo simplemente voy a entregarlo como brasileño.",926,929.14,{"idx":1276,"utterance_id":1277,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1278,"start_s":1279,"end_s":1280,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},198,"224093","Más que como candidato.",930.24,930.9,{"idx":1282,"utterance_id":1283,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1284,"start_s":1285,"end_s":1286,"word_count":108,"indexable":73},199,"224094","Si no fuera candidato, también estaría entregando la información que tengo al periodismo.",930.92,934.22,{"idx":55,"utterance_id":1288,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1289,"start_s":1290,"end_s":1291,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},"224095","El periodismo hace su trabajo.",934.24,935.44,{"idx":1293,"utterance_id":1294,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1295,"start_s":1296,"end_s":1297,"word_count":87,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1298,"target_proposition":1299,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":1301,"indexable":615},201,"224096","Lo que creo, de hecho, es que la venta, esa relación, dará lugar a que se persiga la chapa.",936.18,939.54,"5757f288-e8ac-4292-9a59-2fae48e8de2f","anular candidaturas financiadas con recursos extranjeros",0.8,"afirma que, si se comprueba, la chapa puede ser 'caçada' (anulada).",{"idx":1303,"utterance_id":1304,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1305,"start_s":1306,"end_s":1307,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},202,"224097","Si queda demostrado que hay dinero de esas personas interfiriendo en una candidatura, sí.",940,942.7,{"idx":1309,"utterance_id":1310,"speaker_name":68,"text":1311,"start_s":1312,"end_s":1313,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},203,"224098","Perdone la sinceridad, pero ahí parece muy cómodo, ¿no?",943.8,946.24,{"idx":1315,"utterance_id":1316,"speaker_name":68,"text":1317,"start_s":1318,"end_s":1319,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":1320,"topic_label":1321,"target_id":1322,"target_proposition":1323,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":1326,"indexable":615},204,"224099","Porque parece claro que Trump tiene una preferencia por Flávio Bolsonaro sobre cualquier otra alternativa.",946.32,952.54,"programa-eleitoral","Programa Electoral","e858f404-6e07-43b6-8305-743614e4ab85","apoyar públicamente a candidatos brasileños por actores extranjeros","neutro_descritivo",0.75,"afirma que Trump prefiere a Flávio; relato de apoyo extranjero.",{"idx":1328,"utterance_id":1329,"speaker_name":68,"text":1330,"start_s":1331,"end_s":1332,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1333,"target_proposition":1334,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1335,"rationale":1336,"indexable":615},205,"224100","Ahora, el PL (Partido Liberal)... Por el número de diputados que dispone, tiene la mayor caja registradora de esta campaña.",953.5,960.68,"3027d438-8676-4049-9638-a594805938fe","financiar campañas por medio del fondo partidario y del fondo electoral",0.78,"dice que el PL tiene la mayor 'caixa registradora' para la campaña.",{"idx":1338,"utterance_id":1339,"speaker_name":68,"text":1340,"start_s":1341,"end_s":1342,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1333,"target_proposition":1334,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1335,"rationale":1343,"indexable":615},206,"224101","Tiene 44 millones de reales para gastar; tiene incluso más dinero que lo que está a disposición de Lula.",961.46,967.04,"compara el monto disponible con el del otro candidato.",{"idx":1345,"utterance_id":1346,"speaker_name":68,"text":1347,"start_s":1348,"end_s":1349,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1350,"target_proposition":1351,"stance":1352,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":1354,"indexable":73},207,"224102","¿Realmente cree que él tomaría dinero del exterior?",967.14,970.06,"8c8eaad3-97a1-4393-8cc1-293fe32c75c7","recibir financiamiento extranjero para campañas","ambiguo",0.45,"pregunta retórica sobre recibir dinero del exterior, sin afirmar posición.",{"idx":1356,"utterance_id":1357,"speaker_name":68,"text":1358,"start_s":1359,"end_s":1360,"word_count":187,"topic_slug":1320,"topic_label":1321,"target_id":1322,"target_proposition":1323,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1361,"rationale":1362,"indexable":73},208,"224103","Una cosa es decir: mira, que Trump tiene interés en Brasil, que están mejor representados...",970.36,977.54,0.72,"reafirma que Trump tendría preferencia por Flávio; relato.",{"idx":1364,"utterance_id":1365,"speaker_name":68,"text":1366,"start_s":1367,"end_s":1368,"word_count":128,"topic_slug":1320,"topic_label":1321,"target_id":1322,"target_proposition":1323,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1361,"rationale":1369,"indexable":73},209,"224104","por Flávio Bolsonaro que por cualquier otro candidato.",978,980.56,"continúa la afirmación sobre preferencia extranjera por un candidato.",{"idx":1371,"utterance_id":1372,"speaker_name":68,"text":1373,"start_s":1374,"end_s":1375,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":1376,"topic_label":1377,"target_id":1378,"target_proposition":1379,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":1380,"indexable":615},210,"224105","Ahora, decir que hay dinero del exterior, sin aportar la evidencia, sin mostrar la prueba, ¿eso no roza la fake news?",980.6,988.02,"polarizacao-e-desinformacao","Polarización y desinformación","513654e4-2f48-465d-ab6f-3f7efd67bd48","divulgar alegaciones de financiamiento externo sin pruebas","critica la alegación sin evidencias, sugiere que roza la fake news.",{"idx":1382,"utterance_id":1383,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1384,"start_s":1385,"end_s":1386,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":1376,"topic_label":1377,"target_id":1387,"target_proposition":1388,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":1389,"indexable":615},211,"224106","No, de ningún modo es una fake news.",988.76,990.42,"2f088951-2b2b-4f75-a8fb-d7b6ff0819b0","afirmar la existencia de financiamiento extranjero a campañas","niega que sea fake news y defiende la existencia de la relación.",{"idx":1391,"utterance_id":1392,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1393,"start_s":1394,"end_s":1395,"word_count":80,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1396,"target_proposition":1397,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":1398,"indexable":615},212,"224107","Estoy hablando de una relación que existe; un artículo ahora de Guilherme Amado, ellos mismos confirman que existe la relación con Rockbridge.",990.44,996.32,"38a9805b-56e4-4c3b-8e30-07259bb71095","afirmar la existencia de financiamiento extranjero a través de Rockbridge","cita un artículo que confirmaría la relación con Rockbridge.",{"idx":1400,"utterance_id":1401,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1402,"start_s":1403,"end_s":1404,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1405,"target_proposition":1406,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":1407,"indexable":615},213,"224108","Para que lo entienda, Josias, Rockbridge: su función en Estados Unidos es financiar campañas.",996.7,1000.22,"ac3b1e06-abf4-400c-ae1f-1b4712a11dba","financiar campañas políticas por medio de Rockbridge","explica la función de Rockbridge como financiadora de campañas.",{"idx":1409,"utterance_id":1410,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1411,"start_s":1412,"end_s":1413,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},214,"224109","¿Qué hace Rocket Beat?",1000.8,1001.56,{"idx":1415,"utterance_id":1416,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1417,"start_s":1418,"end_s":1419,"word_count":80,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1420,"target_proposition":1421,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":1422,"indexable":615},215,"224110","Fue una especie de esos super PACs que se montan en las elecciones americanas con el fin de elegir candidatos dentro de una determinada corriente.",1001.68,1008.98,"8525de69-be69-4d23-ae55-f48dd7087586","crear super PACs para financiar campañas","define el papel de 'super packs' en las elecciones estadounidenses.",{"idx":1424,"utterance_id":1425,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1426,"start_s":1427,"end_s":1428,"word_count":116,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1420,"target_proposition":1421,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":1429,"indexable":73},216,"224111","Lo hicieron con Jade Vance.",1009.04,1010.28,"cita un ejemplo de la actuación de esos grupos en elecciones.",{"idx":1431,"utterance_id":1432,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1433,"start_s":1434,"end_s":1435,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1436,"target_proposition":1437,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":1438,"indexable":615},217,"224112","Entonces, su propósito internacional es eso: hacer negocios.",1010.78,1014.7,"cfdd9ab7-53b6-4c66-bed1-69834eca5fbf","realizar financiamiento internacional de campañas","afirma que el propósito internacional de esos grupos es hacer negocios electorales.",{"idx":1440,"utterance_id":1441,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1442,"start_s":1443,"end_s":1444,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1099,"target_proposition":1100,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":1445,"indexable":615},218,"224113","Si pusieron dinero en la campaña de Flávio, o en aliados de Flávio, o montaron una estructura, ahí hay que investigarlo, Josias.",1015.16,1020.56,"dice explícitamente 'aí tem que se investigar'.",{"idx":1447,"utterance_id":1448,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1449,"start_s":1450,"end_s":1451,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":1376,"topic_label":1377,"target_id":1452,"target_proposition":1453,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":1454,"indexable":615},219,"224114","Decir que estoy produciendo fake news me parece... digamos, me parece perezoso.",1021.3,1026.86,"36a3932a-648c-4f08-96bc-cf5209d47e02","acusar a alguien de producir fake news sin evidencias","repudia el calificativo de 'fake news' como perezoso.",{"idx":1456,"utterance_id":1457,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1458,"start_s":1459,"end_s":1460,"word_count":116,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1099,"target_proposition":1100,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":1461,"indexable":73},220,"224115","Porque, en la práctica, hay que investigarlo.",1027.2,1028.76,"reitera que 'tem que se investigar'.",{"idx":1463,"utterance_id":1464,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1465,"start_s":1466,"end_s":1467,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1099,"target_proposition":1100,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":1468,"indexable":73},221,"224116","Hay que verificarlo.",1029.04,1029.52,"insiste en la verificación de los hechos y en la investigación.",{"idx":1470,"utterance_id":1471,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1472,"start_s":1473,"end_s":1474,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1387,"target_proposition":1388,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1335,"rationale":1475,"indexable":615},222,"224117","Los hechos están ahí y las partes admitieron que existen.",1029.8,1031.82,"declara que hechos y partes admitieron la relación.",{"idx":1477,"utterance_id":1478,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1479,"start_s":1480,"end_s":1481,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":1097,"topic_label":1098,"target_id":1099,"target_proposition":1100,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":1482,"indexable":615},223,"224118","Ahí corresponde no solo al periodismo, sino también a la justicia.",1032.38,1035.76,"Dice que corresponde al periodismo y a la justicia investigar.",{"idx":1484,"utterance_id":1485,"speaker_name":68,"text":1486,"start_s":1487,"end_s":1488,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},224,"224119","Hablando de investigación, empezamos aquí nuestra conversación hablando sobre el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) y usted siempre ha hablado bastante sobre este caso.",1035.78,1043.08,{"idx":1490,"utterance_id":1491,"speaker_name":68,"text":1492,"start_s":1493,"end_s":1494,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":1495,"target_proposition":1496,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":1497,"indexable":615},225,"224120","Investigación realmente comprobada hoy: Flávio Bolsonaro, objeto de la investigación por la solicitud de dinero a Daniel Vorcaro para la película de su padre.",1043.44,1053.48,"fa83f9ad-8fcb-4119-a6ba-9373b904ce65","investigar el pedido de dinero a Daniel Vorcaro","Informa sobre investigación por solicitud de dinero para una película.",{"idx":1499,"utterance_id":1500,"speaker_name":68,"text":1501,"start_s":1502,"end_s":1503,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},226,"224121","¿Cómo ve usted la complicación de eso para Flávio Bolsonaro?",1053.78,1057.4,{"idx":1505,"utterance_id":1506,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1507,"start_s":1508,"end_s":1509,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},227,"224122","Creo, de nuevo, que todo este momento que estamos viviendo es muy loco.",1060.08,1063.14,{"idx":1511,"utterance_id":1512,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1513,"start_s":1514,"end_s":1515,"word_count":147,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":1516,"target_proposition":1517,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1518,"rationale":1519,"indexable":615},228,"224123","Porque creo que esto le acarrea graves problemas jurídicos.",1063.34,1067.64,"3d17eef5-7a18-4cd2-89b9-00139d993098","averiguar implicaciones jurídicas de pedidos de dinero a empresarios",0.76,"Afirma que la historia plantea graves problemas jurídicos.",{"idx":1521,"utterance_id":1522,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1523,"start_s":1524,"end_s":1525,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":1526,"target_proposition":1527,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":1528,"indexable":615},229,"224124","Creo que, al avanzar las investigaciones sobre esto, creo que Flávio Bolsonaro tiene implicaciones reales, como alguien que... hizo un intercambio de favores.",1067.82,1074.16,"e65d4fb2-4316-4178-a09c-691a03f2f3c9","investigar el uso de intermediarios vinculados a políticos en contratos","Afirma que Flávio está implicado y habla de intercambio de favores.",{"idx":1530,"utterance_id":1531,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1532,"start_s":1533,"end_s":1534,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},230,"224125","Tenemos que ver todavía cuál es la contrapartida.",1074.18,1075.58,{"idx":1536,"utterance_id":1537,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1538,"start_s":1539,"end_s":1540,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":1541,"target_proposition":1542,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":1543,"indexable":73},231,"224126","Y creo que las conversaciones que se filtren de Vorcaro pueden arrojar luz sobre eso.",1075.62,1078.86,"1622f432-9c06-4d15-806f-673d2b4345af","usar conversaciones filtradas como elemento de investigación","Dice que las conversaciones filtradas de Vorcaro pueden arrojar luz.",{"idx":1545,"utterance_id":1546,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1547,"start_s":1548,"end_s":1549,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},232,"224127","Tengo una sospecha.",1079.14,1080.04,{"idx":17,"utterance_id":1551,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1552,"start_s":1553,"end_s":1554,"word_count":287,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":1555,"target_proposition":1556,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":1557,"indexable":73},"224128","Creo que son hechos que involucraron al gobierno de su padre, especialmente en esos decretos que involucraban crédito consignado, incluso para beneficios sociales, que beneficiaron en exceso al producto que era de sexta y al Banco Master allí en 2022.",1080.08,1092.3,"f4201cf3-f507-4bd2-99d1-4b75e6cbad6e","investigar el favorecimiento de instituciones por decretos de crédito consignado","Sugiere hechos que involucraron decretos que beneficiaron a un producto y a un banco.",{"idx":1559,"utterance_id":1560,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1561,"start_s":1562,"end_s":1563,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":1564,"target_proposition":1565,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":1566,"indexable":615},234,"224129","Pero creo que la investigación tiene que avanzar y que ellos tienen que llegar a los hechos.",1092.6,1096.74,"8cf9b512-5ea6-46f9-b22a-6a055514cc18","investigar y esclarecer denuncias contra agentes públicos","Declara claramente que 'a investigação tem que andar'.",{"idx":1568,"utterance_id":1569,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1570,"start_s":1571,"end_s":1572,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},235,"224130","La cuestión es la implicación política.",1096.88,1098.08,{"idx":1574,"utterance_id":1575,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1576,"start_s":1577,"end_s":1578,"word_count":48,"indexable":73},236,"224131","La implicación política para las elecciones... Hay que entender que tanto una parte del bolsonarismo como una parte del lulismo tienen una resiliencia muy grande.",1098.32,1104.74,{"idx":1580,"utterance_id":1581,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1582,"start_s":1583,"end_s":1584,"word_count":179,"indexable":73},237,"224132","No va... Pueden pillar a Flávio pegándole a su propia madre y la gente dirá: sí, pero lo hizo de manera patriótica.",1104.96,1110.86,{"idx":1586,"utterance_id":1587,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1588,"start_s":1589,"end_s":1590,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},238,"224133","Lo mismo con Lula, con el propio elector.",1110.88,1112.28,{"idx":1592,"utterance_id":1593,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1594,"start_s":1595,"end_s":1596,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},239,"224134","Entonces, a una parte de ese electorado no le va a importar.",1112.72,1115.52,{"idx":1598,"utterance_id":1599,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1600,"start_s":1601,"end_s":1602,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},240,"224135","Y creo que esa es la tónica del juego.",1116.06,1118.6,{"idx":1604,"utterance_id":1605,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1606,"start_s":1607,"end_s":1608,"word_count":15,"indexable":73},241,"224136","Por más que haya cobertura periodística, por más que los adversarios, en mi caso, insistan en eso, también en el involucramiento de Lulinha con Lula, el electorado no le da mucha importancia, Fabio.",1118.78,1127.82,{"idx":1610,"utterance_id":1611,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1612,"start_s":1613,"end_s":1614,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},242,"224137","No es que sea todo el electorado.",1129.12,1129.92,{"idx":1616,"utterance_id":1617,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1618,"start_s":1619,"end_s":1620,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},243,"224138","Hay un electorado que sí presta atención.",1130.28,1131.72,{"idx":23,"utterance_id":1622,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1623,"start_s":1624,"end_s":1625,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},"224139","Existe un elector antipetista que no es necesariamente bolsonarista.",1132.92,1136.52,{"idx":1627,"utterance_id":1628,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1629,"start_s":1630,"end_s":1631,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},245,"224140","¿Cuál es la característica de ese elector?",1137.12,1138.86,{"idx":1633,"utterance_id":1634,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1635,"start_s":1636,"end_s":1637,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},246,"224141","Está desenganchado.",1138.88,1139.78,{"idx":1639,"utterance_id":1640,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1641,"start_s":1642,"end_s":1643,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},247,"224142","Para retomar lo que Josias había planteado al comienzo de la entrevista.",1140.14,1142.64,{"idx":1645,"utterance_id":1646,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1647,"start_s":1648,"end_s":1649,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},248,"224143","Ah, Cury creció.",1142.94,1143.66,{"idx":1651,"utterance_id":1652,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1653,"start_s":1654,"end_s":1655,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},249,"224144","Cury creció precisamente con ese electorado.",1143.68,1145,{"idx":1657,"utterance_id":1658,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1659,"start_s":1660,"end_s":1661,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},250,"224145","Un elector que está... No solo está despolitizado, es antipolítico.",1145.4,1148.98,{"idx":1663,"utterance_id":1664,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1665,"start_s":1666,"end_s":1667,"word_count":174,"indexable":73},251,"224146","Ni siquiera quiere ver comentarios políticos y Cury parece ser solo un abuelito simpático ahí.",1149.44,1153.56,{"idx":1669,"utterance_id":1670,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1671,"start_s":1672,"end_s":1673,"word_count":27,"indexable":73},252,"224147","Luego vino lo del dron, después la persona... Uy, déjame salir de esto que no me parece muy apropiado, pero... Ese elector en algún momento va a tomar una decisión.",1154.08,1162.32,{"idx":1675,"utterance_id":1676,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1677,"start_s":1678,"end_s":1679,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},253,"224148","¿Será que su decisión también estará basada en estas denuncias?",1162.46,1164.9,{"idx":1681,"utterance_id":1682,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1683,"start_s":1684,"end_s":1685,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},254,"224149","Es la pregunta que todo el mundo quiere saber.",1165.34,1166.5,{"idx":1687,"utterance_id":1688,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1689,"start_s":1690,"end_s":1691,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},255,"224150","Porque si lo es, entonces Flávio pierde.",1166.84,1168.62,{"idx":1693,"utterance_id":1694,"speaker_name":68,"text":1695,"start_s":1696,"end_s":1697,"word_count":181,"indexable":73},256,"224151","Solo para volver a ese punto de que... ¿Cómo se comportan los candidatos que podrían ser alternativas a los polos?",1170.68,1178.84,{"idx":1699,"utterance_id":1700,"speaker_name":68,"text":1701,"start_s":1702,"end_s":1703,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},257,"224152","El elector que mira de lado está buscando una oportunidad para alejarse de Lula o de Flávio Bolsonaro.",1179.66,1186.42,{"idx":1705,"utterance_id":1706,"speaker_name":68,"text":1707,"start_s":1708,"end_s":1709,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},258,"224153","Ahí encuentra la alternativa... Renan Santos, y empieza a seguirlo.",1187.14,1191.62,{"idx":1711,"utterance_id":1712,"speaker_name":68,"text":1713,"start_s":1714,"end_s":1715,"word_count":27,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1716,"target_proposition":1717,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":1718,"indexable":615},259,"224154","Hoy el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) está en la picota, quedó expuesto debido al comportamiento de algunos de sus ministros, que se relacionaron de forma impropia, por decir lo menos, con Daniel Borcaro.",1193.86,1205.64,"81d2097f-ea10-4cc4-9844-6f23fe8b5259","investigar posibles parcialidades de ministros del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal)","Afirma que el STF se convirtió en 'vidraça' por comportamiento inapropiado.",{"idx":1720,"utterance_id":1721,"speaker_name":68,"text":1722,"start_s":1723,"end_s":1724,"word_count":108,"indexable":73},260,"224155","Ahora, antes, en 2022, parece que la victoria de Lula fue influenciada... por el factor democrático.",1205.74,1215.1,{"idx":1726,"utterance_id":1727,"speaker_name":68,"text":1728,"start_s":1729,"end_s":1730,"word_count":174,"indexable":73},261,"224156","La gente miró a Bolsonaro y dijo: bueno, esto es una amenaza a la propia democracia.",1215.36,1220.3,{"idx":1732,"utterance_id":1733,"speaker_name":68,"text":1734,"start_s":1735,"end_s":1736,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},262,"224157","Y entonces Lula ganó allí por un margen muy pequeño.",1220.72,1223.06,{"idx":1738,"utterance_id":1739,"speaker_name":68,"text":1740,"start_s":1741,"end_s":1742,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1743,"target_proposition":1744,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":1745,"indexable":615},263,"224158","Y ahora mira al lado y ve a Renan Santos diciendo: si soy elegido, no voy a cumplir algunas decisiones del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal).",1223.7,1230.36,"a9d24f85-7acf-4008-8dc6-2b45c2265f52","rechazar cumplir decisiones ilegales del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal)","Pregunta retórica que sugiere que no acatar sería antidemocrático.",{"idx":1747,"utterance_id":1748,"speaker_name":68,"text":1749,"start_s":1750,"end_s":1751,"word_count":42,"indexable":73},264,"224159","Sé su punto de vista, ya lo ha expresado en otras entrevistas, sabatinas, pero quería entender: ¿cómo puede no cumplir una decisión del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal)?",1230.96,1239.7,{"idx":1753,"utterance_id":1754,"speaker_name":68,"text":1755,"start_s":1756,"end_s":1757,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1758,"target_proposition":1759,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":1760,"indexable":73},265,"224160","Porque por el sistema democrático... por el sistema lógico, quien discrepa de una decisión del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) va a recurrir.",1239.78,1247.28,"25dc3cff-0547-4be7-bd21-b37b6641ea9b","recurrir las decisiones del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) en lugar de incumplirlas","Expresa norma democrática: la discrepancia se resuelve por recurso.",{"idx":1762,"utterance_id":1763,"speaker_name":68,"text":1764,"start_s":1765,"end_s":1766,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},266,"224161","Y un presidente va a disponer de la AGU para hacer eso y tal.",1247.8,1251.52,{"idx":1768,"utterance_id":1769,"speaker_name":68,"text":1770,"start_s":1771,"end_s":1772,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1743,"target_proposition":1744,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":1773,"indexable":615},267,"224162","Ahora, ¿simplemente incumplir una decisión judicial no sería un comportamiento antidemocrático?",1251.76,1258.76,"Pregunta si incumplir no sería antidemocrático.",{"idx":1775,"utterance_id":1776,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1777,"start_s":1778,"end_s":1779,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1743,"target_proposition":1744,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":1780,"indexable":73},268,"224163","No, de ninguna manera.",1259.12,1260.24,"Niega que el incumplimiento sea antidemocrático ('Não, de maneira alguma').",{"idx":1782,"utterance_id":1783,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1784,"start_s":1785,"end_s":1786,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1743,"target_proposition":1744,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":1787,"indexable":73},269,"224164","Ya ha habido incumplimientos anteriores.",1261.14,1262.46,"Recuerda que ya hubo incumplimientos anteriores.",{"idx":1789,"utterance_id":1790,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1791,"start_s":1792,"end_s":1793,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1743,"target_proposition":1744,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":1794,"indexable":615},270,"224165","Hay una sentencia del propio STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) de 96 que dice que una decisión ilegal no se cumple.",1262.52,1266.14,"Invoca fallo de 1996: 'decisão ilegal não se cumpre'.",{"idx":1796,"utterance_id":1797,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1798,"start_s":1799,"end_s":1800,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},271,"224166","Y no creo que estemos viviendo un régimen democrático republicano normal.",1267.44,1271.48,{"idx":1802,"utterance_id":1803,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1804,"start_s":1805,"end_s":1806,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1807,"target_proposition":1808,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":1809,"indexable":73},272,"224167","Lo que estamos presenciando en el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal), si alguien quiere llevar esa discusión a cualquier campo jurídico, es solo un debate de fuerza.",1272.68,1278.06,"d9dd0fe9-831b-40cb-bd51-948d4bd0bbe8","criticar la actuación política del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal)","Describe la actuación del STF como 'debate de força'.",{"idx":1811,"utterance_id":1812,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1813,"start_s":1814,"end_s":1815,"word_count":157,"indexable":73},273,"224168","Es la presentación de ejércitos retóricos y juegos palaciegos de conflicto que no tienen nada que ver con el Estado Democrático de Derecho, la República, Respública, no tiene nada que ver.",1278.7,1290.38,{"idx":1817,"utterance_id":1818,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1819,"start_s":1820,"end_s":1821,"word_count":358,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1822,"target_proposition":1823,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1824,"rationale":1825,"indexable":615},274,"224169","El STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) se ha estado comportando de manera anómala desde hace mucho tiempo y esa anomalía se está dando ahora, al menos en los últimos dos años, por cuenta de intereses económicos para su protección, por cuenta del involucramiento de los ministros del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) en escándalos de corrupción y de sus aliados en la política.",1291.82,1305.28,"073c4f12-97d4-4551-9430-20b313f0b85f","investigar transacciones financieras entre investigados y miembros del Poder Judicial",0.82,"Alega la implicación de ministros en escándalos e intereses económicos.",{"idx":1827,"utterance_id":1828,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1829,"start_s":1830,"end_s":1831,"word_count":179,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1832,"target_proposition":1833,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1824,"rationale":1834,"indexable":615},275,"224170","Eso es lo que están haciendo y decir que el país tiene que someterse a eso es una locura.",1305.66,1310.6,"d40772a3-3c1c-4d84-b8d1-15e38ea70709","someter al país a las decisiones del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal)","Dice que someter al país a eso 'é loucura'.",{"idx":1836,"utterance_id":1837,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1838,"start_s":1839,"end_s":1840,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1832,"target_proposition":1833,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":1841,"indexable":615},276,"224171","No voy a someter al país a eso.",1310.84,1312.02,"Declara 'Eu não vou submeter o país a isso'.",{"idx":1843,"utterance_id":1844,"speaker_name":68,"text":1845,"start_s":1846,"end_s":1847,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},277,"224172","¿Dejar de cumplir una decisión judicial no sería añadir anormalidad a la anomalía?",1314.24,1319.28,{"idx":1849,"utterance_id":1850,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1851,"start_s":1852,"end_s":1853,"word_count":87,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1743,"target_proposition":1744,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":1854,"indexable":615},278,"224173","No, porque si cumplo una decisión ilegal, yo también estoy entrando en ese juego.",1319.86,1323.82,"Justifica no acatar decisiones ilegales para evitar el juego de poder.",{"idx":1856,"utterance_id":1857,"speaker_name":68,"text":1858,"start_s":1859,"end_s":1860,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},279,"224174","¿Y quién va a decidir si la decisión es ilegal o no?",1324.1,1327.46,{"idx":1862,"utterance_id":1863,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1864,"start_s":1865,"end_s":1866,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},280,"224175","La ley, la constitución y, voy a dar un ejemplo, el presidente de la república.",1327.54,1330.14,{"idx":1868,"utterance_id":1869,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1870,"start_s":1871,"end_s":1872,"word_count":249,"indexable":73},281,"224176","No es que esté diciendo esto aquí; estamos tomando una declaración mía en el podcast, luego dieron un salto en Globo News y ahora vamos a tomar la declaración original.",1330.16,1339.16,{"idx":1874,"utterance_id":1875,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1876,"start_s":1877,"end_s":1878,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},282,"224177","Dije: mira, estoy en medio de una operación en una favela en Río de Janeiro.",1339.4,1343.02,{"idx":1880,"utterance_id":1881,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1882,"start_s":1883,"end_s":1884,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},283,"224178","Estoy liberando a las personas que están en esa favela.",1343.22,1344.94,{"idx":1886,"utterance_id":1887,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1888,"start_s":1889,"end_s":1890,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},284,"224179","Entonces siempre viene esa objeción.",1345.26,1346.76,{"idx":408,"utterance_id":1892,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1893,"start_s":1894,"end_s":1895,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},"224180","Ah, pero llega un achandão y va a dar una canetada.",1346.78,1348.48,{"idx":1897,"utterance_id":1898,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1899,"start_s":1900,"end_s":1901,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1902,"target_proposition":1903,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":1904,"indexable":615},286,"224181","Si estoy en medio de una operación delicada, con la policía actuando, policía federal actuando, y viene una decisión ordenando detener, una decisión ilegal no se cumple.",1348.88,1356.02,"641c9752-b36d-4109-a0e4-de6597325795","no cumplir decisiones judiciales monocráticas que interrumpan operaciones policiales","Afirma 'decisão ilegal não se cumpre' en el contexto de una operación policial.",{"idx":1906,"utterance_id":1907,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1908,"start_s":1909,"end_s":1910,"word_count":287,"indexable":73},287,"224182","Si estoy cumpliendo todos los requisitos constitucionales y las prerrogativas de un presidente de la república al realizar ese acto, no voy a poner a las personas en riesgo, a la policía en riesgo, por culpa de una decisión monocrática.",1356.14,1365.06,{"idx":1912,"utterance_id":1913,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1914,"start_s":1915,"end_s":1916,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},288,"224183","No lo haré.",1365.44,1365.76,{"idx":1918,"utterance_id":1919,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1920,"start_s":1921,"end_s":1922,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},289,"224184","¿Y cómo se hace eso?",1366.02,1366.8,{"idx":1924,"utterance_id":1925,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1926,"start_s":1927,"end_s":1928,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":1929,"topic_label":1930,"target_id":1931,"target_proposition":1932,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":1933,"indexable":73},290,"224185","Se consulta a la AGU.",1366.82,1367.74,"poder-executivo","Poder Ejecutivo","07a217a4-1e58-4ce6-86de-9d74639b9c52","consultar a la AGU sobre la legalidad de decisiones judiciales","Indica consulta a la AGU como procedimiento operativo.",{"idx":1935,"utterance_id":1936,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1937,"start_s":1938,"end_s":1939,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},291,"224186","Mira, AGU, ¿esta decisión es correcta?",1368.4,1369.72,{"idx":1941,"utterance_id":1942,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1943,"start_s":1944,"end_s":1945,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},292,"224187","No, no lo está.",1369.9,1370.26,{"idx":1947,"utterance_id":1948,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1949,"start_s":1950,"end_s":1951,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},293,"224188","Ah, ¿entonces voy a poner en riesgo a las personas?",1370.68,1371.92,{"idx":1953,"utterance_id":1954,"speaker_name":68,"text":1955,"start_s":1956,"end_s":1957,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},294,"224189","No, no voy a poner.",1371.98,1372.58,{"idx":1959,"utterance_id":1960,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1961,"start_s":1962,"end_s":1963,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},295,"224190","Porque, déjame explicar, Fabrício, una cosa que necesita quedar clara aquí.",1373.22,1375.5,{"idx":29,"utterance_id":1965,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1966,"start_s":1967,"end_s":1968,"word_count":147,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":1969,"target_proposition":1970,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":1971,"indexable":615},"224191","No veo legitimidad en Alexandre de Moraes ni en Dias Toffoli.",1375.76,1378.32,"0f00b719-88fa-41ea-afc6-2e68aab734c6","reconocer la legitimidad de los ministros del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal)","Declara no ver legitimidad en Alexandre de Moraes y Toffoli.",{"idx":1973,"utterance_id":1974,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1975,"start_s":1976,"end_s":1977,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},297,"224192","Para mí no son ministros.",1379.12,1380.32,{"idx":1979,"utterance_id":1980,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1981,"start_s":1982,"end_s":1983,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},298,"224193","Para mí no tendrían que estar en el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal).",1380.66,1381.86,{"idx":1985,"utterance_id":1986,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1987,"start_s":1988,"end_s":1989,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},299,"224194","Para mí su presencia es anómala.",1382.14,1383.96,{"idx":1991,"utterance_id":1992,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1993,"start_s":1994,"end_s":1995,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},300,"224195","Vamos a seguir fingiendo normalidad.",1384.2,1385.76,{"idx":1997,"utterance_id":1998,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1999,"start_s":2000,"end_s":2001,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":2002,"target_proposition":2003,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1824,"rationale":2004,"indexable":615},301,"224196","Mira, hay estos ministros delincuentes aquí que hacen negocios, están recibiendo dinero, que están usando investigaciones como instrumentos de negociación.",1385.98,1391.48,"8d8a7645-160a-4260-b5f8-626a9e713f23","investigar sospechas que involucren a ministros del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal)","Acusa a ministros de 'receber dinheiro' y usar investigaciones como moneda de cambio.",{"idx":2006,"utterance_id":2007,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2008,"start_s":2009,"end_s":2010,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},302,"224197","y yo voy a... No lo voy a aceptar.",1391.7,1393.14,{"idx":2012,"utterance_id":2013,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2014,"start_s":2015,"end_s":2016,"word_count":179,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":2017,"target_proposition":2018,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":2019,"indexable":615},303,"224198","Si gano las elecciones, no voy a tratar como aceptables las decisiones que vengan de Dias Toffoli y de Alexandre.",1393.44,1398.18,"6d0b780b-9cdf-4eb7-bd7e-d82eb642f7f3","tratar las decisiones de Dias Toffoli y Alexandre de Moraes como aceptables","Dice que no considerará aceptables las decisiones de esos ministros si es elegido.",{"idx":2021,"utterance_id":2022,"speaker_name":68,"text":2023,"start_s":2024,"end_s":2025,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},304,"224199","Eso hizo al candidato interesante.",1398.2,1399.56,{"idx":2027,"utterance_id":2028,"speaker_name":68,"text":2029,"start_s":2030,"end_s":2031,"word_count":193,"indexable":73},305,"224200","Tomemos, ya que usted puso ese ejemplo de una operación en la favela, tomemos ahora una decisión.",1399.72,1406.18,{"idx":33,"utterance_id":2033,"speaker_name":68,"text":2034,"start_s":2035,"end_s":2036,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},"224201","Mendonça aparta al director general de la Policía Federal.",1406.72,1410.46,{"idx":2038,"utterance_id":2039,"speaker_name":68,"text":2040,"start_s":2041,"end_s":2042,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},307,"224202","Si usted fuera presidente en lugar de Lula, ¿usted cumpliría o no?",1410.5,1414.98,{"idx":2044,"utterance_id":2045,"speaker_name":68,"text":2046,"start_s":2047,"end_s":2048,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},308,"224203","Diría: no, mi director de la Policía Federal se va a quedar.",1415.12,1418.3,{"idx":2050,"utterance_id":2051,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2052,"start_s":2053,"end_s":2054,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},309,"224204","Cada caso es un caso.",1418.56,1419.42,{"idx":2056,"utterance_id":2057,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2058,"start_s":2059,"end_s":2060,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":1929,"topic_label":1930,"target_id":2061,"target_proposition":2062,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2063,"indexable":615},310,"224205","En ese caso, André Rodrigues está involucrado en ese escándalo de corrupción y la investigación lo alcanza, usted va a cumplir.",1420.8,1426.42,"22830a48-fb73-4166-8c5d-6d75a2c6d83e","cumplir las suspensiones de directores de la Policía Federal cuando la investigación indique corrupción","Dice que acataría un apartamiento si se comprueba su implicación en un escándalo.",{"idx":2065,"utterance_id":2066,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2067,"start_s":2068,"end_s":2069,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},311,"224206","Ahora, no tiene nada que ver.",1426.9,1427.72,{"idx":2071,"utterance_id":2072,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2073,"start_s":2074,"end_s":2075,"word_count":328,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":2076,"target_proposition":2077,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2078,"indexable":615},312,"224207","Si es una persona designada, está cumpliendo constitucionalmente su deber, y si al mismo tiempo no está involucrada en un escándalo de corrupción, y llega una decisión eventualmente política del ministro para no destituirlo, o para destituirlo, porque sí, eso no se acepta.",1427.76,1438.7,"02785ea7-d778-42f4-ab8c-46414a60d81e","aceptar decisiones políticas de ministros que busquen derribar nombramientos sin pruebas","Afirma que no aceptará decisión política de un ministro para derribar sin pruebas.",{"idx":2080,"utterance_id":2081,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2082,"start_s":2083,"end_s":2084,"word_count":193,"indexable":73},313,"224208","Porque lo que no podemos permitir, nuevamente, es ese juego palaciego de poder que cruza las líneas de la institucionalidad.",1438.96,1445.24,{"idx":2086,"utterance_id":2087,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2088,"start_s":2089,"end_s":2090,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},314,"224209","Alguien está cruzando la línea de la institucionalidad.",1445.54,1447.1,{"idx":2092,"utterance_id":2093,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2094,"start_s":2095,"end_s":2096,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},315,"224210","Hoy el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) está cruzando esas líneas.",1448,1449.8,{"idx":2098,"utterance_id":2099,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2100,"start_s":2101,"end_s":2102,"word_count":181,"indexable":73},316,"224211","Hoy la parte de la política que participa de los mismos escándalos, de las mismas orgías con los miembros del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal), participa de eso.",1450.04,1454.76,{"idx":2104,"utterance_id":2105,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2106,"start_s":2107,"end_s":2108,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},317,"224212","Si nos quedamos... tratando en términos estrictamente institucionales lo que está sucediendo a través de agentes que no son institucionales, vamos a entrar en la locura.",1455.16,1463.98,{"idx":2110,"utterance_id":2111,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2112,"start_s":2113,"end_s":2114,"word_count":181,"indexable":73},318,"224213","Que es la locura de fingir que una decisión que viene de Alexandre de Moraes hoy es institucional.",1464.02,1467.56,{"idx":2116,"utterance_id":2117,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2118,"start_s":2119,"end_s":2120,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},319,"224214","Que tiene rigor formal, que está obedeciendo la pirámide de Hans Kelsen.",1467.9,1471.64,{"idx":2122,"utterance_id":2123,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2124,"start_s":2125,"end_s":2126,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},320,"224215","No tiene nada que ver.",1471.66,1472.22,{"idx":2128,"utterance_id":2129,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2130,"start_s":2131,"end_s":2132,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},321,"224216","Esto es solo un juego de poder.",1472.48,1473.52,{"idx":2134,"utterance_id":2135,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2136,"start_s":2137,"end_s":2138,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},322,"224217","Esto aquí es una orgía institucional que están haciendo.",1473.8,1476.36,{"idx":463,"utterance_id":2140,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2141,"start_s":2142,"end_s":2143,"word_count":116,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":2144,"target_proposition":2145,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1824,"rationale":2146,"indexable":73},"224218","Y alguien tendrá que romper eso.",1476.74,1477.88,"89384104-9bad-421d-a8d1-53be7191b372","romper el dominio político-institucional del STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal)","Declara que 'alguém vai ter que quebrar isso'.",{"idx":2148,"utterance_id":2149,"speaker_name":68,"text":2150,"start_s":2151,"end_s":2152,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},324,"224219","Eso necesita ser roto.",1477.98,1479.2,{"idx":2154,"utterance_id":2155,"speaker_name":68,"text":2156,"start_s":2157,"end_s":2158,"word_count":42,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":2159,"target_proposition":2160,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1335,"rationale":2161,"indexable":615},325,"224220","Para situar la cuestión en el ámbito en que usted la planteó: estoy realizando una operación en una favela y viene una orden, hay que interrumpir, simplemente no se cumple.",1480.5,1490.86,"f406fab7-4fec-444b-901f-f5a59fa97557","incumplir decisiones judiciales que perjudiquen operaciones policiales","Repite ejemplo de no cumplir una orden que interrumpa una operación.",{"idx":2163,"utterance_id":2164,"speaker_name":68,"text":2165,"start_s":2166,"end_s":2167,"word_count":277,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2168,"target_proposition":2169,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":2170,"indexable":73},326,"224221","En relación con ambientes de periferia, combate al crimen organizado, también sus propuestas son controvertidas, usted dijo que tiene que haber... Un régimen de excepción, estado de defensa permanente en territorios controlados por organizaciones criminales.",1490.9,1509.64,"6fef86da-8e8b-481a-b2ce-0561cfe6911f","decretar estados de defensa e intervenciones federales para enfrentar el crimen organizado","Informa sobre propuesta controvertida de régimen de excepción\u002Flocalización.",{"idx":2172,"utterance_id":2173,"speaker_name":68,"text":2174,"start_s":2175,"end_s":2176,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2177,"target_proposition":2178,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":2179,"indexable":615},327,"224222","Y también ha dicho que la sangre tiene que brotar, y tiene que brotar del lado correcto, que es el lado de los delincuentes.",1509.66,1515.86,"61d4ff0f-7004-422c-8ec0-02221654dd8f","autorizar uso letal contra criminales que amenacen civiles","Informa que afirmó que 'o sangue tem que jorrar' contra la delincuencia.",{"idx":2181,"utterance_id":2182,"speaker_name":68,"text":2183,"start_s":2184,"end_s":2185,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2186,"target_proposition":2187,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":2188,"indexable":615},328,"224223","Ahora bien, el Estado representa lo opuesto a la delincuencia.",1515.9,1519.86,"554b78d9-4efe-4a8b-90b3-63d8efd356b8","reducir homicidios y combatir el crimen organizado","Defiende el combate al crimen organizado 'dentro das regras'.",{"idx":2190,"utterance_id":2191,"speaker_name":68,"text":2192,"start_s":2193,"end_s":2194,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},329,"224224","El Estado tiene que combatir al crimen organizado, a los delincuentes, con todo rigor.",1520.02,1525.38,{"idx":2196,"utterance_id":2197,"speaker_name":68,"text":2198,"start_s":2199,"end_s":2200,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},330,"224225","Ahora, dentro del Estado democrático de derecho, dentro de las reglas.",1525.94,1530.18,{"idx":2202,"utterance_id":2203,"speaker_name":68,"text":2204,"start_s":2205,"end_s":2206,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},331,"224226","Y no llegar para derramar sangre.",1530.8,1532.32,{"idx":2208,"utterance_id":2209,"speaker_name":68,"text":2210,"start_s":2211,"end_s":2212,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},332,"224227","Derramar sangre es una alternativa dependiendo de la situación que se presente.",1532.56,1538.3,{"idx":2214,"utterance_id":2215,"speaker_name":68,"text":2216,"start_s":2217,"end_s":2218,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},333,"224228","Ahora, el Estado no va a la favela para derramar sangre.",1538.62,1541.68,{"idx":2220,"utterance_id":2221,"speaker_name":68,"text":2222,"start_s":2223,"end_s":2224,"word_count":249,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2177,"target_proposition":2178,"stance":1352,"stance_confidence":2225,"rationale":2226,"indexable":73},334,"224229","Entonces, quiero preguntarle: ese régimen de excepción, si hubiera una orden judicial para bloquear alguna operación que esté recurriendo a ese tipo de régimen, no previsto en la legislación nacional.",1541.76,1553.52,0.5,"Sugiere la violencia de forma condicional sin afirmarla claramente.",{"idx":2228,"utterance_id":2229,"speaker_name":68,"text":2230,"start_s":2231,"end_s":2232,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2233,"target_proposition":2234,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":2235,"indexable":73},335,"224230","¿Usted simplemente no lo cumpliría?",1554.84,1556.18,"cacca976-3eb8-4f5d-83ad-c6e0e9d560d4","usar fuerza letal indiscriminadamente en favelas","Niega que el Estado vaya a la favela para 'derramar sangue'.",{"idx":2237,"utterance_id":2238,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2239,"start_s":2240,"end_s":2241,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2242,"target_proposition":2243,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":2244,"indexable":615},336,"224231","Perdón, Josias, el estado de defensa está previsto en la Constitución.",1556.64,1559.92,"36515ea9-c254-465c-8990-12030618c418","decretar estado de sitio o estado de defensa en situaciones de grave amenaza al orden","Afirma que el estado de defensa está previsto constitucionalmente.",{"idx":2246,"utterance_id":2247,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2248,"start_s":2249,"end_s":2250,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},337,"224232","para corregir una imprecisión que usted planteó.",1560.72,1562.54,{"idx":2252,"utterance_id":2253,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2254,"start_s":2255,"end_s":2256,"word_count":116,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2257,"target_proposition":2258,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2259,"indexable":73},338,"224233","No existe el estado de defensa permanente.",1562.64,1565.66,"e8d97bc2-a1ea-4e3d-817b-80f34fc0bc65","decretar estado de defensa permanente","Dice que no existe un estado de defensa permanente.",{"idx":2261,"utterance_id":2262,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2263,"start_s":2264,"end_s":2265,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2266,"target_proposition":2267,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":2268,"indexable":615},339,"224234","Se valida por como máximo 60 días.",1566.54,1568.98,"456dd542-02e2-4007-83b3-b4e61867a054","validar estado de defensa por más de 60 días","Afirma el límite legal de 60 días para el estado de defensa.",{"idx":2270,"utterance_id":2271,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2272,"start_s":2273,"end_s":2274,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},340,"224235","Entonces no es permanente.",1569.52,1570.5,{"idx":2276,"utterance_id":2277,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2278,"start_s":2279,"end_s":2280,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},341,"224236","Tiene que usarse puntualmente.",1570.62,1572.24,{"idx":2282,"utterance_id":2283,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2284,"start_s":2285,"end_s":2286,"word_count":72,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2242,"target_proposition":2243,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":2287,"indexable":615},342,"224237","Y además le diré, como sobre todo soy demócrata, lo haré solo localmente, puntualmente, no poner al país entero en estado de defensa.",1572.52,1580.52,"Propone el uso puntual y local del estado de defensa.",{"idx":2289,"utterance_id":2290,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2291,"start_s":2292,"end_s":2293,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2242,"target_proposition":2243,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":2294,"indexable":615},343,"224238","Vamos puntualmente, en esta operación que necesitamos hacer, en este conjunto de ciudades, en esos nódulos en que el Comando Vermelho y el PCC están actuando, los pondremos en estado de defensa.",1581.98,1590.56,"Detalla la aplicación puntual en núcleos controlados por facciones.",{"idx":2296,"utterance_id":2297,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2298,"start_s":2299,"end_s":2300,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2301,"target_proposition":2302,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2303,"indexable":615},344,"224239","Si no es necesario el estado de defensa, vaya por la GLO, que son estados que, por excelencia, no son permanentes.",1591.26,1596.56,"b478b35f-c568-46dd-b0fa-b6980a4fdc82","decretar operaciones de Garantía de la Ley y del Orden (GLO) al inicio del gobierno","Propone la GLO como alternativa cuando el estado de defensa no sea necesario.",{"idx":2305,"utterance_id":2306,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2307,"start_s":2308,"end_s":2309,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2310,"target_proposition":2311,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2312,"indexable":615},345,"224240","Y ni deben serlo, porque si usted mantiene al país entero en estado de defensa, no consigue, por ejemplo, aprobar reformas.",1597.08,1601.8,"b7704ba8-3093-4b00-80e5-88675ecda23e","mantener todo el país en estado de defensa","Argumenta que el estado de defensa nacional impediría reformas.",{"idx":2314,"utterance_id":2315,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2316,"start_s":2317,"end_s":2318,"word_count":304,"indexable":73},346,"224241","No consigue aprobar nada en el Congreso que altere los otros problemas, las otras guerras que tenemos que enfrentar, que son las guerras en el área económica, la guerra contra la impunidad, que es el tema central para Brasil.",1601.82,1610.44,{"idx":2320,"utterance_id":2321,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2322,"start_s":2323,"end_s":2324,"word_count":181,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2177,"target_proposition":2178,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":2325,"rationale":2326,"indexable":615},347,"224242","Ahora, volviendo a este tema, cuando hablo de la sangre del bandido que va a derramarse, lo repito.",1611,1616.38,0.84,"Repite la expresión 'sangue do bandido que vai jorrar' como postura.",{"idx":2328,"utterance_id":2329,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2330,"start_s":2331,"end_s":2332,"word_count":108,"indexable":73},348,"224243","Si el bandido quiere entregarse, y no necesitamos ninguna sangre, se entrega.",1616.86,1620.34,{"idx":2334,"utterance_id":2335,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2336,"start_s":2337,"end_s":2338,"word_count":59,"indexable":73},349,"224244","Ahora, es de la naturaleza de una organización que ni siquiera es paramilitar, que es militar, militarizada, entrenada, que está usando drones, un combate.",1620.92,1628.3,{"idx":2340,"utterance_id":2341,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2342,"start_s":2343,"end_s":2344,"word_count":187,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2345,"target_proposition":2346,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2347,"indexable":615},350,"224245","Si el Comando Vermelho quiere entregarse, puedo, en mi primer día de presidencia, por favor, entréguense.",1628.76,1632.14,"9435e7b0-6280-4b16-85c8-fe9c23620439","promover la rendición de organizaciones criminales","Ofrece la rendición como alternativa en el primer día de gobierno.",{"idx":2349,"utterance_id":2350,"speaker_name":68,"text":2351,"start_s":2352,"end_s":2353,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},351,"224246","¿Usted está a favor de la pena de muerte?",1632.7,1634.52,{"idx":2355,"utterance_id":2356,"speaker_name":68,"text":2357,"start_s":2358,"end_s":2359,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},352,"224247","Señor, usted habla bastante sobre esa historia de matar a los delincuentes.",1634.56,1637.64,{"idx":2361,"utterance_id":2362,"speaker_name":68,"text":2363,"start_s":2364,"end_s":2365,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},353,"224248","¿Está usted a favor de la pena de muerte?",1637.66,1639,{"idx":2367,"utterance_id":2368,"speaker_name":68,"text":2369,"start_s":2370,"end_s":2371,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},354,"224249","Personalmente, sí.",1639.46,1640.1,{"idx":2373,"utterance_id":2374,"speaker_name":68,"text":2375,"start_s":2376,"end_s":2377,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},355,"224250","¿Pondría eso a discusión en Brasil?",1641.18,1642.8,{"idx":2379,"utterance_id":2380,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2381,"start_s":2382,"end_s":2383,"word_count":110,"topic_slug":2384,"topic_label":2385,"target_id":2386,"target_proposition":2387,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":2388,"indexable":73},356,"224251","No al inicio de mi mandato.",1643.16,1644.18,"politica-penal","Política penal","1a20149c-036e-41d9-b169-c25d5016c8f9","establecer pena de muerte","Declara 'não no início do meu mandato' respecto a la pena de muerte.",{"idx":2390,"utterance_id":2391,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2392,"start_s":2393,"end_s":2394,"word_count":179,"topic_slug":2384,"topic_label":2385,"target_id":2386,"target_proposition":2387,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2395,"indexable":615},357,"224252","En los cuatro años de mandato, creo que es una discusión que no es posible, porque se necesitaría una nueva Constitución.",1645.84,1650.2,"Afirma que la discusión exigiría una nueva Constitución, no viable en cuatro años.",{"idx":2397,"utterance_id":2398,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2399,"start_s":2400,"end_s":2401,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},358,"224253","Si quiere una PEC, es una nueva Constitución.",1650.34,1652.56,{"idx":2403,"utterance_id":2404,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2405,"start_s":2406,"end_s":2407,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2408,"target_proposition":2409,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1824,"rationale":2410,"indexable":615},359,"224254","Y creo que puedo derrotar al crimen organizado sin necesitar eso.",1652.72,1654.78,"e9d294dc-ade9-4fb2-a8bf-f276526aa0cb","implementar la pena de muerte","Dice que puede derrotar al crimen organizado sin recurrir a la pena de muerte.",{"idx":2412,"utterance_id":2413,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2414,"start_s":2415,"end_s":2416,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},360,"224255","Ahora, en términos de principios, creo que ciertas personas que cometen atrocidades no tienen lugar.",1655.1,1660,{"idx":505,"utterance_id":2418,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2419,"start_s":2420,"end_s":2421,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},"224256","Voy a estar intentando rehabilitarlas.",1660.04,1661.48,{"idx":2423,"utterance_id":2424,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2425,"start_s":2426,"end_s":2427,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},362,"224257","Creo que son personas que no encajan en el espacio civilizado.",1661.9,1667.82,{"idx":2429,"utterance_id":2430,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2431,"start_s":2432,"end_s":2433,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},363,"224258","Y es una discusión, a mi parecer.",1668.12,1669.9,{"idx":2435,"utterance_id":2436,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2437,"start_s":2438,"end_s":2439,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},364,"224259","Que ni siquiera fue planteada por mí.",1670.44,1671.66,{"idx":2441,"utterance_id":2442,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2443,"start_s":2444,"end_s":2445,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},365,"224260","No soy un dirigente político proveniente del ámbito policial.",1672.06,1675.78,{"idx":2447,"utterance_id":2448,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2449,"start_s":2450,"end_s":2451,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},366,"224261","No lo soy.",1676.28,1676.62,{"idx":2453,"utterance_id":2454,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2455,"start_s":2456,"end_s":2457,"word_count":181,"indexable":73},367,"224262","Ahora, la población, cuando recorrí Brasil, me pedía, Renan, por el amor de Dios, haz algo.",1676.98,1681.52,{"idx":2459,"utterance_id":2460,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2461,"start_s":2462,"end_s":2463,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},368,"224263","Mátenlos.",1681.54,1682.36,{"idx":2465,"utterance_id":2466,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2467,"start_s":2468,"end_s":2469,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},369,"224264","Y especialmente las personas más pobres están preocupadas por eso.",1682.78,1684.88,{"idx":2471,"utterance_id":2472,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2473,"start_s":2474,"end_s":2475,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},370,"224265","Eso es muy claro.",1685.22,1685.76,{"idx":2477,"utterance_id":2478,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2479,"start_s":2480,"end_s":2481,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},371,"224266","Son las personas que más sufren por este tema.",1685.8,1687.08,{"idx":2483,"utterance_id":2484,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2485,"start_s":2486,"end_s":2487,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},372,"224267","Y la gente está pidiendo respuestas muy duras.",1687.1,1688.86,{"idx":2489,"utterance_id":2490,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2491,"start_s":2492,"end_s":2493,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},373,"224268","Y esas personas quieren esas respuestas.",1689.34,1690.5,{"idx":2495,"utterance_id":2496,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2497,"start_s":2498,"end_s":2499,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},374,"224269","Y necesitamos esas respuestas.",1690.52,1691.36,{"idx":2501,"utterance_id":2502,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2503,"start_s":2504,"end_s":2505,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":2506,"target_proposition":2507,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":2508,"indexable":615},375,"224270","Tanto es así que considero que la guerra contra el crimen organizado es la gran respuesta que un líder político puede dar a Brasil.",1691.64,1698.04,"49d1b998-4416-468b-bcd8-fa9c913f9c8f","adoptar estrategias variadas para combatir el crimen organizado","Considera la 'guerra contra o crime organizado' como la principal respuesta política.",{"idx":2510,"utterance_id":2511,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2512,"start_s":2513,"end_s":2514,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},376,"224271","para el problema de polarización en Brasil, que ha ido adquiriendo varios contornos.",1698.74,1701.76,{"idx":2516,"utterance_id":2517,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2518,"start_s":2519,"end_s":2520,"word_count":193,"indexable":73},377,"224272","Uno de los elementos de la polarización que tenemos no es la derecha y la izquierda, es la polarización regional.",1701.8,1705.88,{"idx":2522,"utterance_id":2523,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2524,"start_s":2525,"end_s":2526,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},378,"224273","Es una polarización de clase que existe en Brasil.",1706.56,1708.84,{"idx":2528,"utterance_id":2529,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2530,"start_s":2531,"end_s":2532,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},379,"224274","Vaya con la persona más pobre que encuentre en la isla de Marajó, como la encontré en Melgaço, o con un habitante de la Serra Gaúcha.",1709.66,1716.16,{"idx":2534,"utterance_id":2535,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2536,"start_s":2537,"end_s":2538,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},380,"224275","Todo el mundo está preocupado por el mismo problema.",1716.5,1717.98,{"idx":2540,"utterance_id":2541,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2542,"start_s":2543,"end_s":2544,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},381,"224276","Ese problema de la seguridad pública unifica a Brasil en una causa común.",1718.32,1720.86,{"idx":2546,"utterance_id":2547,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2548,"start_s":2549,"end_s":2550,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},382,"224277","Creo que eso es importante.",1720.88,1721.62,{"idx":2552,"utterance_id":2553,"speaker_name":68,"text":2554,"start_s":2555,"end_s":2556,"word_count":174,"indexable":73},383,"224278","Renan, es interesante que acabas de decir al comienzo de la entrevista que eres un tierno.",1721.8,1725.36,{"idx":2558,"utterance_id":2559,"speaker_name":68,"text":2560,"start_s":2561,"end_s":2562,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},384,"224279","¿Lo ves ahora?",1725.42,1727.5,{"idx":2564,"utterance_id":2565,"speaker_name":68,"text":2566,"start_s":2567,"end_s":2568,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},385,"224280","Que eres un tierno.",1728.1,1729,{"idx":2570,"utterance_id":2571,"speaker_name":68,"text":2572,"start_s":2573,"end_s":2574,"word_count":405,"topic_slug":2384,"topic_label":2385,"target_id":2575,"target_proposition":2576,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":2577,"indexable":615},386,"224281","Sin embargo, su programa de gobierno e incluso sus declaraciones, como esa que acaba de dar, de estar a favor de la pena de muerte... son bastante extremas y van por un camino muy distinto al que Brasil está acostumbrado y al que vive, el día a día del brasileño en su conjunto.",1729.18,1743.78,"6e7fb147-e393-4cb3-b89d-e6a6edf62b33","instituir la prisión perpetua","Enumera 'prisão perpétua' como elemento del plan de gobierno.",{"idx":2579,"utterance_id":2580,"speaker_name":68,"text":2581,"start_s":2582,"end_s":2583,"word_count":417,"indexable":73},387,"224282","En su proyecto de gobierno, en su plan de gobierno registrado en el TSE, está la prisión perpetua, eso sí usted lo defiende y lo plantea; el fin de las cuotas para los negros, el fin de la CLT y de la Justicia del Trabajo; también está la bomba atómica, la prohibición del funk en las escuelas, el fin de la autonomía de las universidades.",1744.98,1765.5,{"idx":2585,"utterance_id":2586,"speaker_name":68,"text":2587,"start_s":2588,"end_s":2589,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},388,"224283","Usted ha hablado de eso también.",1765.54,1767.7,{"idx":2591,"utterance_id":2592,"speaker_name":68,"text":2593,"start_s":2594,"end_s":2595,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},389,"224284","¿Se considera un radical?",1768.3,1770.08,{"idx":2597,"utterance_id":2598,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2599,"start_s":2600,"end_s":2601,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},390,"224285","No, me considero una persona sensata.",1771.08,1772.8,{"idx":2603,"utterance_id":2604,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2605,"start_s":2606,"end_s":2607,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},391,"224286","No hay nada de radical en nada de lo que usted mencionó.",1773.02,1774.64,{"idx":2609,"utterance_id":2610,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2611,"start_s":2612,"end_s":2613,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},392,"224287","Absolutamente nada radical.",1775.3,1776.3,{"idx":2615,"utterance_id":2616,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2617,"start_s":2618,"end_s":2619,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},393,"224288","¿Cuál de esas propuestas es radical?",1777.02,1778.38,{"idx":2621,"utterance_id":2622,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2623,"start_s":2624,"end_s":2625,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},394,"224289","Diga una radical.",1780.56,1781.26,{"idx":2627,"utterance_id":2628,"speaker_name":68,"text":2629,"start_s":2630,"end_s":2631,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},395,"224290","El elector puede decidir.",1781.34,1782.72,{"idx":2633,"utterance_id":2634,"speaker_name":68,"text":2635,"start_s":2636,"end_s":2637,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},396,"224291","No, el elector, perfecto.",1782.78,1784,{"idx":2639,"utterance_id":2640,"speaker_name":68,"text":2641,"start_s":2642,"end_s":2643,"word_count":59,"indexable":73},397,"224292","Pero usted está de acuerdo en que trae un proyecto de país absolutamente distinto de lo que el brasileño está acostumbrado o no?",1786.28,1793.82,{"idx":2645,"utterance_id":2646,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2647,"start_s":2648,"end_s":2649,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},398,"224293","Quizá, y eso es una buena noticia, ¿no?",1794.34,1795.8,{"idx":2651,"utterance_id":2652,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2653,"start_s":2654,"end_s":2655,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},399,"224294","Me parece que Brasil tampoco está muy feliz con el Estado.",1796.12,1797.72,{"idx":2657,"utterance_id":2658,"speaker_name":68,"text":2659,"start_s":2660,"end_s":2661,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},400,"224295","Pero entonces, ¿por qué el elector no lo está eligiendo a usted?",1797.74,1799.2,{"idx":2663,"utterance_id":2664,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2665,"start_s":2666,"end_s":2667,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},401,"224296","Porque todavía no me conoce.",1799.5,1800.42,{"idx":2669,"utterance_id":2670,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2671,"start_s":2672,"end_s":2673,"word_count":277,"indexable":73},402,"224297","No solo no me conoce, sino que hoy existe un proceso, y esta elección estaba marcada por eso, de aislamiento de nuevas alternativas debido a la normativa del TSE, que impide que los algoritmos funcionen en estas elecciones.",1801.92,1812.96,{"idx":2675,"utterance_id":2676,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2677,"start_s":2678,"end_s":2679,"word_count":108,"indexable":73},403,"224298","Los nuevos ingresantes tienen una gravísima, terrible dificultad para comunicarse por cuenta de esa resolución del TSE.",1813.36,1819.86,{"idx":2681,"utterance_id":2682,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2683,"start_s":2684,"end_s":2685,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},404,"224299","¿Qué hace esa resolución del TSE?",1819.94,1821.8,{"idx":2687,"utterance_id":2688,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2689,"start_s":2690,"end_s":2691,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},405,"224300","Impide que un algoritmo que... recomiende contenido, que rompa la burbuja de cierto candidato.",1822.2,1827.82,{"idx":2693,"utterance_id":2694,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2695,"start_s":2696,"end_s":2697,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},406,"224301","¿Quién consigue romper esa burbuja hoy?",1828.18,1830.56,{"idx":2699,"utterance_id":2700,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2701,"start_s":2702,"end_s":2703,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},407,"224302","Quien tiene dinero para hacer impulsionamiento.",1830.6,1832.54,{"idx":2705,"utterance_id":2706,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2707,"start_s":2708,"end_s":2709,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},408,"224303","Entonces lo que se hizo fue una reserva de mercado.",1832.86,1834.4,{"idx":2711,"utterance_id":2712,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2713,"start_s":2714,"end_s":2715,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},409,"224304","Tanto que eso ayuda a explicar incluso la naturaleza de esta elección ahora.",1834.76,1837.78,{"idx":2717,"utterance_id":2718,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2719,"start_s":2720,"end_s":2721,"word_count":9,"indexable":73},410,"224305","Entonces es una elección que embota las novedades y permite que quien ya está establecido tenga dinero, espacio en TV y así haga sus impulsionamientos.",1838.16,1845.78,{"idx":2723,"utterance_id":2724,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2725,"start_s":2726,"end_s":2727,"word_count":174,"indexable":73},411,"224306","Entonces eso es problemático, pero creo que la atención del elector en el período electoral va a aumentar.",1845.8,1852.5,{"idx":541,"utterance_id":2729,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2730,"start_s":2731,"end_s":2732,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},"224307","Y eso permitirá que la persona lo conozca.",1852.74,1854.1,{"idx":2734,"utterance_id":2735,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2736,"start_s":2737,"end_s":2738,"word_count":106,"topic_slug":2739,"topic_label":2740,"target_id":2741,"target_proposition":2742,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2743,"indexable":615},413,"224308","Director, en su plan de gobierno, en la parte económica, cuando usted habla de sus propuestas para el ajuste fiscal, usted propone desindexar el BPC y las jubilaciones del aumento del salario mínimo por encima de la inflación.",1854.62,1871.26,"politica-fiscal-e-social","Política Fiscal y Social","745453ca-0a96-40e3-aa08-9a11c04a8802","aprobar la PEC del equilibrio fiscal que desindexa beneficios y revisa enmiendas parlamentarias","Apunta la propuesta de desindexar el BPC y las jubilaciones en el plan.",{"idx":2745,"utterance_id":2746,"speaker_name":68,"text":2747,"start_s":2748,"end_s":2749,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},414,"224309","La semana pasada, Caiado estuvo aquí y hablaba de sus propuestas para la contención del gasto.",1872.46,1879.16,{"idx":2751,"utterance_id":2752,"speaker_name":68,"text":2753,"start_s":2754,"end_s":2755,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":2739,"topic_label":2740,"target_id":2756,"target_proposition":2757,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":2758,"indexable":615},415,"224310","y cuando se le preguntó sobre eso, él... rechazó ese tipo de alternativa, diciendo que el ajuste no podía hacerse sobre los más pobres.",1879.84,1888.52,"e3636593-de8a-4d9c-b22a-f56c5ccf1046","implementar control de gastos públicos y políticas de austeridad fiscal","Relata que otro rechazó la alternativa de ajustar 'em cima dos mais pobres'.",{"idx":2760,"utterance_id":2761,"speaker_name":68,"text":2762,"start_s":2763,"end_s":2764,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},416,"224311","¿Es eso lo que usted defiende?",1888.54,1890.34,{"idx":2766,"utterance_id":2767,"speaker_name":68,"text":2768,"start_s":2769,"end_s":2770,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},417,"224312","¿Contener el crecimiento del gasto a costa de los más pobres?",1891.78,1896.04,{"idx":2772,"utterance_id":2773,"speaker_name":68,"text":2774,"start_s":2775,"end_s":2776,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},418,"224313","No, porque no es así.",1896.58,1897.32,{"idx":2778,"utterance_id":2779,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2780,"start_s":2781,"end_s":2782,"word_count":340,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2785,"target_proposition":2786,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":943,"rationale":2787,"indexable":615},419,"224314","No es así. El BPC y el salario mínimo, aumentar la jubilación con base en el salario mínimo, no hace a las personas que reciben esos beneficios más capaces de comprar cosas, porque el efecto contrario que eso genera es un aumento del gasto en las cuentas públicas.",1898.68,1914.54,"politica-previdenciaria","Política previsional","d86509ad-c687-4914-a219-073308cd0a53","preservar la vinculación del salario mínimo a las jubilaciones y al BPC","Critica la indexación del salario mínimo como causante del aumento del gasto público.",{"idx":2789,"utterance_id":2790,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2791,"start_s":2792,"end_s":2793,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2785,"target_proposition":2786,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":2794,"indexable":615},420,"224315","Descontrolado, eso aumenta la trayectoria de los intereses, aumenta la relación deuda\u002FPIB, eso hace que el dinero sea más caro, que es el famoso dar con una mano y quitar con la otra.",1914.56,1922.02,"Asocia la indexación con la trayectoria de las tasas de interés y el aumento de la deuda pública.",{"idx":2796,"utterance_id":2797,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2798,"start_s":2799,"end_s":2800,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2785,"target_proposition":2786,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":2801,"indexable":615},421,"224316","Al final del día, la persona puede incluso pensar: 'vaya, mi jubilación fue reajustada de acuerdo con el salario mínimo'.",1922.48,1927.54,"Afirma que el reajuste indexado no aumenta el poder adquisitivo efectivo.",{"idx":2803,"utterance_id":2804,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2805,"start_s":2806,"end_s":2807,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2785,"target_proposition":2786,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":2808,"indexable":615},422,"224317","Está bien, pero el producto en la estantería estará más caro.",1927.88,1929.62,"Ejemplifica un efecto práctico: los precios en la góndola serán más caros.",{"idx":2810,"utterance_id":2811,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2812,"start_s":2813,"end_s":2814,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2785,"target_proposition":2786,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":2815,"indexable":615},423,"224318","Ese descontrol tiene una consecuencia que impacta la vida de las personas.",1930.62,1933.66,"Afirma que el 'descontrole' de la indexación afecta la vida de las personas.",{"idx":2817,"utterance_id":2818,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2819,"start_s":2820,"end_s":2821,"word_count":80,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2785,"target_proposition":2786,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":2822,"rationale":2823,"indexable":615},424,"224319","Porque si no acabamos entrando en esa discusión de Samara, de la UPE, no, es solo no pagar la deuda y aumentar el salario mínimo.",1933.68,1939.12,0.86,"critica la solución simplista de no pagar la deuda y aumentar el salario mínimo.",{"idx":2825,"utterance_id":2826,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2827,"start_s":2828,"end_s":2829,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2785,"target_proposition":2786,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":2830,"indexable":615},425,"224320","No es así. No, las cosas no son tan simples.",1939.98,1942.66,"niega la simplicidad de la propuesta de indexar los beneficios al mínimo.",{"idx":2832,"utterance_id":2833,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2834,"start_s":2835,"end_s":2836,"word_count":340,"topic_slug":2837,"topic_label":2838,"target_id":2839,"target_proposition":2840,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":2841,"indexable":615},426,"224321","Entonces, las desindexaciones y la desvinculación, para entrar ya en otro tema que los otros candidatos no quieren abordar, la desvinculación del piso de la salud y de la educación permitirán que haya un control de las cuentas públicas y una mayor capacidad del gobierno para proponer su presupuesto.",1943.04,1958.4,"saude-publica-e-infraestrutura-hospitalar","Salud pública y infraestructura hospitalaria","a4383925-9033-4f76-8330-60b9d371dd94","desvincular los pisos de gasto en salud y educación del salario mínimo","propone la desvinculación del piso de la salud como forma de controlar las cuentas públicas.",{"idx":2843,"utterance_id":2844,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2845,"start_s":2846,"end_s":2847,"word_count":179,"topic_slug":2848,"topic_label":2849,"target_id":2839,"target_proposition":2840,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":2850,"indexable":615},427,"224322","aumentar la capacidad de inversión, eso aumenta la riqueza general, y al aumentar la riqueza general aumenta el poder de compra.",1958.68,1963.26,"financas-municipais","Finanzas Municipales","afirma que la desvinculación aumentaría la capacidad de inversión y la riqueza general.",{"idx":2852,"utterance_id":2853,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2854,"start_s":2855,"end_s":2856,"word_count":187,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2857,"target_proposition":2858,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":2859,"indexable":615},428,"224323","Y otra cosa, estamos hablando, por ejemplo, en esta desindexación, en que no habrá un mecanismo automático.",1963.28,1969.64,"6df21b63-a037-4f33-9185-fbacc314d728","desindexar beneficios previsionales del salario mínimo","defiende la desindexación para evitar disparadores automáticos de reajuste.",{"idx":2861,"utterance_id":2862,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2863,"start_s":2864,"end_s":2865,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2866,"target_proposition":2867,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":2868,"indexable":615},429,"224324","Es decir, todas las jubilaciones serán reajustadas de acuerdo con el PCA con la inflación, que es como sucede en todo el mundo.",1970.36,1976,"cf1f1d7d-adae-4a55-bd7b-1d3338613771","corregir las pensiones por la inflación y permitir ganancia real cuando sea posible","propone reajuste por el PCA\u002Finflación en lugar de la vinculación al salario mínimo.",{"idx":2870,"utterance_id":2871,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2872,"start_s":2873,"end_s":2874,"word_count":128,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2866,"target_proposition":2867,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2875,"indexable":615},430,"224325","Todas las buenas experiencias de gestión pública son así.",1976.58,1978.86,"alega que ese es el modelo adoptado por buenas experiencias internacionales.",{"idx":2877,"utterance_id":2878,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2879,"start_s":2880,"end_s":2881,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},431,"224326","Perfecto.",1979.66,1980.04,{"idx":2883,"utterance_id":2884,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2885,"start_s":2886,"end_s":2887,"word_count":181,"topic_slug":2888,"topic_label":2889,"target_id":2890,"target_proposition":2891,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2892,"indexable":615},432,"224327","Ahora, si un presidente vio que había crecimiento económico, el presidente va y da un aumento real.",1980.52,1984.88,"politica-salarial","Política salarial","7b9e1cbe-2ccf-4383-8262-5df39f3ff413","aumentar el salario mínimo por encima de la inflación según la nueva regla fiscal","dice que el presidente puede conceder un aumento real cuando hay crecimiento del PIB.",{"idx":2894,"utterance_id":2895,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2896,"start_s":2897,"end_s":2898,"word_count":103,"topic_slug":2888,"topic_label":2889,"target_id":2890,"target_proposition":2891,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":2899,"indexable":73},433,"224328","¿Está permitida esa liberalidad?",1985.5,1987.22,"pregunta si el presidente tiene la libertad para conceder un aumento real.",{"idx":2901,"utterance_id":2902,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2903,"start_s":2904,"end_s":2905,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":34,"topic_label":32,"target_id":2906,"target_proposition":2907,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":2908,"rationale":2909,"indexable":73},434,"224329","Es decir, hice que Brasil creciera un 5% del PIB ese año.",1987.24,1990.96,"fa9aacff-48b3-4a6b-962c-7d51f26d93fb","priorizar políticas macroeconómicas de crecimiento y prosperidad",0.6,"relata una hipotética revalorización del PIB seguida de un aumento presupuestario.",{"idx":2911,"utterance_id":2912,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2913,"start_s":2914,"end_s":2915,"word_count":128,"topic_slug":2888,"topic_label":2889,"target_id":2890,"target_proposition":2891,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":2916,"indexable":73},435,"224330","¿Dio un aumento en el presupuesto para el año siguiente?",1991.52,1993.02,"sugiere que se puede dar un aumento adicional además del reajuste.",{"idx":2918,"utterance_id":2919,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2920,"start_s":2921,"end_s":2922,"word_count":110,"topic_slug":2888,"topic_label":2889,"target_id":2890,"target_proposition":2891,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1361,"rationale":2923,"indexable":73},436,"224331","Además del reajuste, dio un aumento.",1993.64,1995.7,"retoma que un aumento discrecional puede ocurrir tras el crecimiento.",{"idx":2925,"utterance_id":2926,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2927,"start_s":2928,"end_s":2929,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},437,"224332","Eso es un piso.",1995.94,1996.74,{"idx":2931,"utterance_id":2932,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2933,"start_s":2934,"end_s":2935,"word_count":147,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2785,"target_proposition":2786,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":2936,"indexable":615},438,"224333","Toda la cuestión es que eso quede vinculado al aumento del salario mínimo.",1997.1,1999.26,"afirma que el problema es mantener los reajustes vinculados al salario mínimo.",{"idx":2938,"utterance_id":2939,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2940,"start_s":2941,"end_s":2942,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":34,"topic_label":32,"target_id":2943,"target_proposition":2944,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2945,"indexable":615},439,"224334","¿Para quién tiene ese efecto tan negativo?",1999.48,2001.14,"7f4766b5-9fa6-438b-b84b-8a4019f9a1e9","adoptar medidas de política económica que impacten el tipo de cambio y la inflación","pregunta para quién la indexación tiene efecto negativo (argumento contra la práctica).",{"idx":2947,"utterance_id":2948,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2949,"start_s":2950,"end_s":2951,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":34,"topic_label":32,"target_id":2943,"target_proposition":2944,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2952,"indexable":73},440,"224335","Para los más jóvenes.",2001.16,2001.9,"dice que la indexación perjudica a los más jóvenes, que reciben el salario mínimo.",{"idx":2954,"utterance_id":2955,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2956,"start_s":2957,"end_s":2958,"word_count":304,"topic_slug":2888,"topic_label":2889,"target_id":2959,"target_proposition":2960,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":2961,"indexable":73},441,"224336","Porque el joven, que es quien suele recibir el salario mínimo, cuando entra en el mercado laboral, su ganancia de productividad —que es el reajuste del salario mínimo— se aplica a personas que hoy no están trabajando.",2002.22,2013.36,"48971b3a-15c3-4d37-9c2c-f7d26be595bc","vincular el ajuste de salarios al aumento de productividad en el empleo","afirma que la ganancia de productividad debería reflejarse en los salarios, no en una indexación automática.",{"idx":2963,"utterance_id":2964,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2965,"start_s":2966,"end_s":2967,"word_count":15,"topic_slug":34,"topic_label":32,"target_id":2943,"target_proposition":2944,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1824,"rationale":2968,"indexable":615},442,"224337","Y al ocurrir eso, el efecto general en la economía de la subida de las tasas de interés y el aumento de los precios por cuenta de esa relación negativa hace que esa persona no tenga poder adquisitivo.",2013.6,2022.14,"vincula la indexación al aumento de tasas y precios que reducen el poder adquisitivo.",{"idx":2970,"utterance_id":2971,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2972,"start_s":2973,"end_s":2974,"word_count":141,"topic_slug":2888,"topic_label":2889,"target_id":2975,"target_proposition":2976,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1335,"rationale":2977,"indexable":615},443,"224338","Y entonces el poder adquisitivo del joven queda depreciado.",2022.4,2024.4,"f5d9e7dd-0e74-436b-a7af-a7f5884f79d0","vincular el ajuste de jubilaciones y beneficios al salario mínimo","afirma que el poder adquisitivo del joven se deprecia con la indexación.",{"idx":2979,"utterance_id":2980,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2981,"start_s":2982,"end_s":2983,"word_count":147,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":2984,"target_proposition":2985,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":2986,"indexable":615},444,"224339","Entonces estamos tirando el futuro del joven a la basura.",2024.62,2026.58,"de709951-5c26-47f9-ac65-47b63a07e0bf","evitar políticas que perjudiquen el futuro económico de los jóvenes pobres","declara que están 'jogando o futuro do mais jovem no lixo'.",{"idx":2988,"utterance_id":2989,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":2990,"start_s":2991,"end_s":2992,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":2993,"topic_label":2994,"target_id":2995,"target_proposition":2996,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":2997,"rationale":2998,"indexable":73},445,"224340","Entonces el joven que es más pobre —y eso lo demuestran todos los estudios— los jóvenes no ganan como los mayores; esto, no solo en Brasil, hace que ese grupo se empobrezca.",2026.9,2035.7,"desigualdade-socioeconomica","Desigualdad Socioeconómica","a7c00f8d-2fa3-405a-8920-d7bb4085c2fe","reducir la pobreza entre jóvenes mediante políticas económicas estructurales",0.65,"afirma que sondeos muestran que los jóvenes son más pobres que los mayores.",{"idx":3000,"utterance_id":3001,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3002,"start_s":3003,"end_s":3004,"word_count":181,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":3005,"target_proposition":3006,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":3007,"indexable":615},446,"224341","Entonces, mantener las cosas como están es hacer que quienes son más pobres se vuelvan más pobres.",2036.3,2041,"14def917-2c1d-460e-a6ab-56254dfec949","priorizar políticas públicas orientadas a la reducción de la pobreza y la mejora de los servicios públicos","afirma que mantener la indexación es hacer que los pobres sean más pobres y se opone.",{"idx":3009,"utterance_id":3010,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3011,"start_s":3012,"end_s":3013,"word_count":116,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2785,"target_proposition":2786,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":3014,"indexable":73},447,"224342","Eso es lo que no voy a permitir.",2041.02,2041.94,"promete no permitir mantener el actual modelo indexado al salario mínimo.",{"idx":3016,"utterance_id":3017,"speaker_name":68,"text":3018,"start_s":3019,"end_s":3020,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},448,"224343","Pero, ¿cuál es la política del señor para el salario mínimo?",2041.98,2043.48,{"idx":3022,"utterance_id":3023,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3024,"start_s":3025,"end_s":3026,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":2888,"topic_label":2889,"target_id":3027,"target_proposition":3028,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":3029,"indexable":73},449,"224344","El modelo del salario mínimo no quedará inalterado.",2044.74,2046.94,"7de59ba8-eee5-4016-9633-8a2388a3c4c6","reformular el modelo de cálculo y ajuste del salario mínimo","dice que el modelo del salario mínimo 'não fica inalterado'.",{"idx":3031,"utterance_id":3032,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3033,"start_s":3034,"end_s":3035,"word_count":87,"topic_slug":2783,"topic_label":2784,"target_id":2857,"target_proposition":2858,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":3036,"indexable":615},450,"224345","La cuestión son los disparadores automáticos para el reajuste de beneficios usando el salario mínimo.",2046.98,2052.08,"identifica los disparadores automáticos como el núcleo de la cuestión contra la indexación.",{"idx":3038,"utterance_id":3039,"speaker_name":68,"text":3040,"start_s":3041,"end_s":3042,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},451,"224346","¿Sabe cuánto está hoy el salario mínimo?",2052.3,2053.9,{"idx":3044,"utterance_id":3045,"speaker_name":68,"text":3046,"start_s":3047,"end_s":3048,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},452,"224347","R$ 1.500, R$ 1.600.",2055.72,2056.08,{"idx":3050,"utterance_id":3051,"speaker_name":68,"text":3052,"start_s":3053,"end_s":3054,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},453,"224348","R$ 1.621.",2059.52,2059.88,{"idx":3056,"utterance_id":3057,"speaker_name":68,"text":3058,"start_s":3059,"end_s":3060,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},454,"224349","Aunque no haya sido exitosa, su candidatura presidencial dio mucha visibilidad.",2060.98,2066.8,{"idx":3062,"utterance_id":3063,"speaker_name":68,"text":3064,"start_s":3065,"end_s":3066,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},455,"224350","a un partido recién creado, el partido Missão.",2067.34,2069.9,{"idx":3068,"utterance_id":3069,"speaker_name":68,"text":3070,"start_s":3071,"end_s":3072,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},456,"224351","Eso está funcionando independientemente del resultado que usted obtenga en las urnas.",2071.08,2077.82,{"idx":3074,"utterance_id":3075,"speaker_name":68,"text":3076,"start_s":3077,"end_s":3078,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},457,"224352","Quisiera preguntarle cuál es el futuro de la democracia brasileña, a su juicio, y cuál es el papel del partido Missão en esa democracia.",2078.4,2087.98,{"idx":3080,"utterance_id":3081,"speaker_name":68,"text":3082,"start_s":3083,"end_s":3084,"word_count":72,"indexable":73},458,"224353","Recientemente hubo un resultado muy sorprendente en Alemania: un partido... del espectro conservador, considerado de extrema derecha, la AFD, Alternativa para Alemania, ganó allí una elección estatal, en Sajonia.",2088.08,2105.8,{"idx":3086,"utterance_id":3087,"speaker_name":68,"text":3088,"start_s":3089,"end_s":3090,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},459,"224354","Eso ocurrió hace unos días.",2106.22,2107.86,{"idx":3092,"utterance_id":3093,"speaker_name":68,"text":3094,"start_s":3095,"end_s":3096,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},460,"224355","Obtuvo allí 43%, casi 44% de los votos.",2108.52,2112.76,{"idx":3098,"utterance_id":3099,"speaker_name":68,"text":3100,"start_s":3101,"end_s":3102,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},461,"224356","Y va a gobernar un Estado en Alemania.",2112.82,2114.72,{"idx":3104,"utterance_id":3105,"speaker_name":68,"text":3106,"start_s":3107,"end_s":3108,"word_count":181,"indexable":73},462,"224357","Quisiera preguntarle si cree que hay espacio para ese discurso más... ¿No lo cree usted?",2115.2,2121,{"idx":3110,"utterance_id":3111,"speaker_name":68,"text":3112,"start_s":3113,"end_s":3114,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},463,"224358","¿Las personas que lo observan perciben cierto radicalismo en su discurso?",2121.06,2125.14,{"idx":3116,"utterance_id":3117,"speaker_name":68,"text":3118,"start_s":3119,"end_s":3120,"word_count":59,"indexable":73},464,"224359","¿Si hay espacio para que ese discurso crezca en la democracia brasileña hasta el punto de que, en poco tiempo, Missão gobierne un Estado, gobierne alcaldías?",2125.6,2135.62,{"idx":3122,"utterance_id":3123,"speaker_name":68,"text":3124,"start_s":3125,"end_s":3126,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},465,"224360","¿Cuál es el proyecto de su partido?",2135.66,2137.64,{"idx":3128,"utterance_id":3129,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3130,"start_s":3131,"end_s":3132,"word_count":157,"topic_slug":3133,"topic_label":3134,"target_id":3135,"target_proposition":3136,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":2822,"rationale":3137,"indexable":615},466,"224361","Bueno, vuelvo a decir aquí, no solo discrepando con usted, José, y con Fabíola, nuestro discurso no es radical en ningún sentido, nuestro discurso es simplemente sensato.",2138.06,2145.72,"democracia-e-cultura-politica","Democracia y Cultura Política","de539970-df1d-4632-84a9-bd0e3f4d5bd6","adoptar un discurso político no radical y sensato en el partido","declara explícitamente que el discurso del partido 'não é radical'.",{"idx":3139,"utterance_id":3140,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3141,"start_s":3142,"end_s":3143,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":45,"topic_label":41,"target_id":3144,"target_proposition":3145,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":3146,"indexable":615},467,"224362","Y proponemos las buenas prácticas que funcionan en todo el mundo para que también funcionen en Brasil.",2146.14,2149.4,"e7d95229-b21f-411b-b5a9-652d29a84f23","implementar buenas prácticas de gestión pública adoptadas internacionalmente","propone 'boas práticas que funcionam no mundo todo' para Brasil.",{"idx":3148,"utterance_id":3149,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3150,"start_s":3151,"end_s":3152,"word_count":193,"indexable":73},468,"224363","Brasil es el país del conformismo, y cuando uno propone algo que cambie las cosas, todo el mundo, ¡vaya!",2149.74,2154,{"idx":3154,"utterance_id":3155,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3156,"start_s":3157,"end_s":3158,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":3159,"topic_label":3160,"target_id":3161,"target_proposition":3162,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":3163,"indexable":615},469,"224364","Entonces, vamos a gobernar estados, vamos a gobernar municipios, y el partido Missão es el partido que va a reformar y a volver la democracia brasileña verdaderamente democrática.",2154.7,2162.9,"democracia","Democracia","95ecdce8-b7ed-4a14-be82-9510343c8562","fortalecer la democracia en Brasil","afirma que el partido va a reformar y hacer la democracia verdaderamente democrática.",{"idx":3165,"utterance_id":3166,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3167,"start_s":3168,"end_s":3169,"word_count":42,"topic_slug":3170,"topic_label":3171,"target_id":3172,"target_proposition":3173,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":943,"rationale":3174,"indexable":615},470,"224365","Dedicamos una parte muy importante de nuestro libro de propuestas, la Ley de Responsabilidad Gerencial, que ataca uno de los temas centrales en Brasil, que es la farsa.",2163.62,2171.4,"reforma-politica","Reforma política","db374a96-6913-4f4f-8494-642470296e3a","aprobar la ley de responsabilidad gerencial","declara que el partido dedica propuestas a la Ley de Responsabilidad Gerencial.",{"idx":3176,"utterance_id":3177,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3178,"start_s":3179,"end_s":3180,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":3170,"topic_label":3171,"target_id":3181,"target_proposition":3182,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":3183,"indexable":615},471,"224366","del sufragio motivado por la decisión política del elector en los pequeños rincones, en los pequeños municipios brasileños.",2171.84,2178.24,"2406b5d8-24ce-43a5-8a0f-5a229821a470","enfrentar la influencia de máquinas partidarias","identifica el sufragio motivado y la compra de votos como objetivo de la propuesta.",{"idx":3185,"utterance_id":3186,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3187,"start_s":3188,"end_s":3189,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},472,"224367","¿Y por qué lo llamo farsa?",2178.5,2179.42,{"idx":3191,"utterance_id":3192,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3193,"start_s":3194,"end_s":3195,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},473,"224368","Porque el modelo político brasileño está basado en la compra de votos.",2179.72,2182.2,{"idx":3197,"utterance_id":3198,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3199,"start_s":3200,"end_s":3201,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},474,"224369","Municipios que viven del desvío de enmiendas, gobernados por alcaldes y diputados federales inescrupulosos, población viviendo dependiente del Estado.",2182.86,2189.44,{"idx":3203,"utterance_id":3204,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3205,"start_s":3206,"end_s":3207,"word_count":249,"indexable":73},475,"224370","Crear un sistema que enfrente ese problema y haga que esos lugares sean efectivamente viables desde el punto de vista económico es también hacer que esos lugares sean viables desde el punto de vista democrático.",2189.84,2198.38,{"idx":3209,"utterance_id":3210,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3211,"start_s":3212,"end_s":3213,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":3214,"topic_label":3215,"target_id":3216,"target_proposition":3217,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":3218,"indexable":615},476,"224371","Derrotar al Centrão, que para mí es la gran anomalía de la política brasileña, es el deber de mi partido político.",2198.82,2203.7,"partidos-etica-partidaria","Partidos \u002F Ética Partidaria","57498fcb-7563-4775-84d9-0d24b804f123","derrotar al Centrão en las disputas políticas y electorales","Afirma que derrotar al Centrão es deber del partido.",{"idx":3220,"utterance_id":3221,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3222,"start_s":3223,"end_s":3224,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},477,"224372","Y ningún grupo político hoy en Brasil aborda esa cuestión como el partido Missão.",2203.84,2207.46,{"idx":3226,"utterance_id":3227,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3228,"start_s":3229,"end_s":3230,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},478,"224373","Entonces, nuestro compromiso de hacer que la democracia brasileña sea funcional es un compromiso histórico.",2207.72,2211.98,{"idx":3232,"utterance_id":3233,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3234,"start_s":3235,"end_s":3236,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},479,"224374","La victoria del partido Missão será necesariamente la victoria de la democracia en Brasil.",2212.32,2216.1,{"idx":3238,"utterance_id":3239,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3240,"start_s":3241,"end_s":3242,"word_count":193,"indexable":73},480,"224375","Porque hoy, de la forma en que las cosas se están conduciendo, se tiene una democracia nominal, se tiene un sufragio nominal.",2216.56,2221.64,{"idx":3244,"utterance_id":3245,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3246,"start_s":3247,"end_s":3248,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},481,"224376","Es como decir que el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) está cuidando de la Constitución.",2221.66,2225.08,{"idx":3250,"utterance_id":3251,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3252,"start_s":3253,"end_s":3254,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},482,"224377","Eso no sucede, son apenas elementos nominales para un régimen oligárquico altamente corrupto.",2225.82,2230.88,{"idx":3256,"utterance_id":3257,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3258,"start_s":3259,"end_s":3260,"word_count":316,"indexable":73},483,"224378","Entonces, nuestro gran compromiso, no solo en la actuación de nuestros diputados, sino en mi actuación como presidente de la república, será transformar esa dinámica de un país que es oligárquico, que vive un régimen corrupto oligárquico, en un régimen verdaderamente democrático y republicano.",2231.26,2244.88,{"idx":3262,"utterance_id":3263,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3264,"start_s":3265,"end_s":3266,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},484,"224379","Y recordando, esa discusión desapareció en Brasil.",2245.08,2246.82,{"idx":3268,"utterance_id":3269,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3270,"start_s":3271,"end_s":3272,"word_count":80,"indexable":73},485,"224380","Cuando hubo la fundación del propio PT, por ejemplo, tenías a Raimundo Faoro, tenías incluso a Sérgio Buarque de Holanda.",2247.22,2254.52,{"idx":3274,"utterance_id":3275,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3276,"start_s":3277,"end_s":3278,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},486,"224381","Ellos trataban esos temas, en sus términos, en su época.",2254.96,2257.58,{"idx":3280,"utterance_id":3281,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3282,"start_s":3283,"end_s":3284,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},487,"224382","Un modelo patrimonialista que concentraba el verdadero poder en Brasil.",2258.68,2263.1,{"idx":3286,"utterance_id":3287,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3288,"start_s":3289,"end_s":3290,"word_count":249,"indexable":73},488,"224383","Desde esa época hasta ahora, ni el petismo, ni el PSDB, con el sociólogo Fernando Henrique Cardoso, lograron resolver, aun tratando esos temas, sus discusiones, cada uno a su manera.",2263.44,2273.34,{"idx":3292,"utterance_id":3293,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3294,"start_s":3295,"end_s":3296,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},489,"224384","El propio bolsonarismo, así, voy... Voy a dejar eso al propio Bolsonaro.",2273.62,2277.58,{"idx":3298,"utterance_id":3299,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3300,"start_s":3301,"end_s":3302,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},490,"224385","A través de Olavo de Carvalho se discutió eso.",2277.66,2279.48,{"idx":3304,"utterance_id":3305,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3306,"start_s":3307,"end_s":3308,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},491,"224386","Ellos también lo discutieron.",2279.72,2280.46,{"idx":3310,"utterance_id":3311,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3312,"start_s":3313,"end_s":3314,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},492,"224387","Ese es un tema central en Brasil.",2280.48,2281.92,{"idx":3316,"utterance_id":3317,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3318,"start_s":3319,"end_s":3320,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},493,"224388","Y ese es un tema, desde el punto de vista político, que nosotros discutimos mucho.",2282.2,2284.96,{"idx":3322,"utterance_id":3323,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3324,"start_s":3325,"end_s":3326,"word_count":179,"indexable":73},494,"224389","Cómo tener una democracia real y un Estado moderno en un país que es una mezcla del siglo XXI con el siglo XIX.",2285.54,2291.24,{"idx":656,"utterance_id":3328,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3329,"start_s":3330,"end_s":3331,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},"224390","Creo que esa es la cuestión que Missão propone resolver.",2291.76,2294.44,{"idx":3333,"utterance_id":3334,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3335,"start_s":3336,"end_s":3337,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},496,"224391","Y si se resuelve, hará de Brasil un país glorioso.",2294.5,2297.56,{"idx":3339,"utterance_id":3340,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3341,"start_s":3342,"end_s":3343,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},497,"224392","Tanto que nuestro lema es un lema muy optimista.",2297.78,2299.56,{"idx":3345,"utterance_id":3346,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3347,"start_s":3348,"end_s":3349,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},498,"224393","El futuro es glorioso.",2300.04,2301.08,{"idx":3351,"utterance_id":3352,"speaker_name":68,"text":3353,"start_s":3354,"end_s":3355,"word_count":346,"indexable":73},499,"224394","En esa área aún, ya vi varios videos en internet sobre ello, que es una propuesta que está en el Libro Amarillo, que es el libro del Missão, que habla sobre democracia familiar, el concepto de que no todas las personas deberían tener derecho al voto.",2303.06,2320.78,{"idx":3357,"utterance_id":3358,"speaker_name":68,"text":3359,"start_s":3360,"end_s":3361,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},500,"224395","Por lo que entiendo, usted ya dijo que, aunque estuviera en el libro, no era una pauta suya.",2321.24,2326.42,{"idx":3363,"utterance_id":3364,"speaker_name":68,"text":3365,"start_s":3366,"end_s":3367,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},501,"224396","Quisiera que usted nos explicara bien qué es eso.",2326.44,2328.98,{"idx":3369,"utterance_id":3370,"speaker_name":68,"text":3371,"start_s":3372,"end_s":3373,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},502,"224397","No está en nuestro libro de propuestas.",2329.3,2330.8,{"idx":3375,"utterance_id":3376,"speaker_name":68,"text":3377,"start_s":3378,"end_s":3379,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},503,"224398","Está en el Libro Amarillo.",2331.22,2332.32,{"idx":3381,"utterance_id":3382,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3383,"start_s":3384,"end_s":3385,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},504,"224399","Le voy a explicar cómo funciona.",2332.76,2334.34,{"idx":3387,"utterance_id":3388,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3389,"start_s":3390,"end_s":3391,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},505,"224400","El nombre de la fundación del partido es Fundación Libro Amarillo.",2334.78,2337.42,{"idx":3393,"utterance_id":3394,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3395,"start_s":3396,"end_s":3397,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},506,"224401","El Libro Amarillo es un proyecto colaborativo de discusiones internas.",2338.54,2342.32,{"idx":3399,"utterance_id":3400,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3401,"start_s":3402,"end_s":3403,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},507,"224402","Tenemos cientos de investigadores y esa es la forma en que damos la oportunidad a la persona que quiere producir un programa de participar.",2342.36,2349.1,{"idx":3405,"utterance_id":3406,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3407,"start_s":3408,"end_s":3409,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},508,"224403","Entonces hay grupos de estudio, cientos de grupos, con las personas produciendo.",2349.28,2352.62,{"idx":3411,"utterance_id":3412,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3413,"start_s":3414,"end_s":3415,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},509,"224404","Entonces los seis fascículos originales del Libro Amarillo tienen varios debates que a veces son contradictorios entre sí.",2353.02,2357.66,{"idx":3417,"utterance_id":3418,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3419,"start_s":3420,"end_s":3421,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},510,"224405","Entonces, de los seis primeros fascículos, yo participé, por ejemplo, en la elaboración del primero.",2358.12,2360.96,{"idx":3423,"utterance_id":3424,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3425,"start_s":3426,"end_s":3427,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},511,"224406","Traen debates.",2361.38,2362.42,{"idx":3429,"utterance_id":3430,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3431,"start_s":3432,"end_s":3433,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},512,"224407","Mire, vamos a tener un modelo económico que tenga mayor o menor participación del Estado.",2362.48,2366.5,{"idx":3435,"utterance_id":3436,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3437,"start_s":3438,"end_s":3439,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},513,"224408","¿Qué hacer en la región del Mato Piba?",2366.8,2368.18,{"idx":3441,"utterance_id":3442,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3443,"start_s":3444,"end_s":3445,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},514,"224409","En el sexto, que es el Brasil libre, estamos discutiendo modelos políticos del futuro.",2368.44,2375,{"idx":3447,"utterance_id":3448,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3449,"start_s":3450,"end_s":3451,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},515,"224410","Inteligencia artificial, modelos democráticos.",2375.26,2377.98,{"idx":3453,"utterance_id":3454,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3455,"start_s":3456,"end_s":3457,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},516,"224411","Y la gente planteó allí esa discusión sobre democracia familiar.",2378.12,2380.76,{"idx":3459,"utterance_id":3460,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3461,"start_s":3462,"end_s":3463,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},517,"224412","Trajeron otras.",2381.3,2382.16,{"idx":3465,"utterance_id":3466,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3467,"start_s":3468,"end_s":3469,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},518,"224413","Eso no significa que sea vinculante, porque el programa vinculante es, en efecto, la publicación del Libro Amarillo, que es nuestro programa.",2382.52,2388.6,{"idx":3471,"utterance_id":3472,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3473,"start_s":3474,"end_s":3475,"word_count":157,"topic_slug":608,"topic_label":609,"target_id":3476,"target_proposition":3477,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":3478,"indexable":615},519,"224414","No tiene sentido, ni siquiera políticamente, para nosotros defender eso, porque el modelo discutido allí, que uno de los investigadores debatió, es un modelo que en la práctica es gerontocrático.",2389.18,2397.92,"b5312036-09ba-4809-b623-c7fdefc7bf56","introducir voto familiar en vez del voto individual","Repudia el modelo como gerontocrático y afirma que no lo defenderá.",{"idx":3480,"utterance_id":3481,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3482,"start_s":3483,"end_s":3484,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},520,"224415","Concentra el poder entre las personas más mayores y nuestro electorado es más joven.",2398.1,2400.52,{"idx":3486,"utterance_id":3487,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3488,"start_s":3489,"end_s":3490,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},521,"224416","Y proponemos un proyecto de futuro para el elector más joven.",2400.8,2402.56,{"idx":3492,"utterance_id":3493,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3494,"start_s":3495,"end_s":3496,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},522,"224417","Ni siquiera tiene sentido para nosotros.",2402.8,2404.26,{"idx":3498,"utterance_id":3499,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3500,"start_s":3501,"end_s":3502,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},523,"224418","No es eso lo que apoyamos.",2404.48,2405.4,{"idx":3504,"utterance_id":3505,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3506,"start_s":3507,"end_s":3508,"word_count":174,"indexable":73},524,"224419","Ahora, si los investigadores están publicando, están produciendo, es obvio que voy a incluir sus discusiones allí.",2405.44,2410.26,{"idx":3510,"utterance_id":3511,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3512,"start_s":3513,"end_s":3514,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},525,"224420","Obviamente la discusión tiene que estar presente.",2411.16,2412.82,{"idx":3516,"utterance_id":3517,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3518,"start_s":3519,"end_s":3520,"word_count":108,"indexable":73},526,"224421","Si no hay discusión interna sobre el programa, su partido está muerto por dentro.",2413.42,2417,{"idx":3522,"utterance_id":3523,"speaker_name":68,"text":3524,"start_s":3525,"end_s":3526,"word_count":249,"indexable":73},527,"224422","Candidato, hablando de programa, he estado siguiendo que usted se ha sentido incómodo con las preguntas dirigidas a la falta de políticas públicas específicamente orientadas a las mujeres en su plan de gobierno.",2417.02,2427.78,{"idx":3528,"utterance_id":3529,"speaker_name":68,"text":3530,"start_s":3531,"end_s":3532,"word_count":133,"indexable":73},528,"224423","Incluso recientemente vi que usted conversaba con integrantes de su campaña, diciendo que sus políticas, sus proyectos... para todos, hombres, mujeres, todos, para el ser humano.",2427.8,2437.8,{"idx":3534,"utterance_id":3535,"speaker_name":68,"text":3536,"start_s":3537,"end_s":3538,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},529,"224424","Pero entonces estuve reflexionando al respecto, candidato, me gustaría mucho saber qué opina usted, por ejemplo, del movimiento feminista.",2439.08,2445.24,{"idx":3540,"utterance_id":3541,"speaker_name":68,"text":3542,"start_s":3543,"end_s":3544,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},530,"224425","Las pautas de las mujeres hoy en día, de los propios grupos.",2446.72,2450.82,{"idx":3546,"utterance_id":3547,"speaker_name":68,"text":3548,"start_s":3549,"end_s":3550,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},531,"224426","Quisiera que usted hablara con las electoras, con las mujeres ahora, y con las feministas, inclusive, que muchas veces quizá no voten por usted.",2451.04,2457,{"idx":3552,"utterance_id":3553,"speaker_name":68,"text":3554,"start_s":3555,"end_s":3556,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},532,"224427","¿Y las leyes y políticas públicas, leyes que se crearon ante las evidencias?",2457.44,2463.72,{"idx":3558,"utterance_id":3559,"speaker_name":68,"text":3560,"start_s":3561,"end_s":3562,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},533,"224428","Por ejemplo, la ley del feminicidio.",2464.26,2465.98,{"idx":3564,"utterance_id":3565,"speaker_name":68,"text":3566,"start_s":3567,"end_s":3568,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},534,"224429","¿Usted está en contra o a favor?",2466.2,2467.16,{"idx":3570,"utterance_id":3571,"speaker_name":68,"text":3572,"start_s":3573,"end_s":3574,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},535,"224430","¿Cree que no es funcional?",2467.22,2468.7,{"idx":3576,"utterance_id":3577,"speaker_name":68,"text":3578,"start_s":3579,"end_s":3580,"word_count":181,"indexable":73},536,"224431","La ley Maria da Penha, por ejemplo, que también fue creada para proteger a las mujeres.",2469.16,2473.82,{"idx":3582,"utterance_id":3583,"speaker_name":68,"text":3584,"start_s":3585,"end_s":3586,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},537,"224432","¿Qué opina usted de esas políticas públicas que ya se crearon?",2473.98,2477.1,{"idx":3588,"utterance_id":3589,"speaker_name":68,"text":3590,"start_s":3591,"end_s":3592,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},538,"224433","¿Va a derogar eso?",2477.12,2478.02,{"idx":3594,"utterance_id":3595,"speaker_name":68,"text":3596,"start_s":3597,"end_s":3598,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},539,"224434","¿Qué opina usted del movimiento feminista?",2478.76,2480.18,{"idx":3600,"utterance_id":3601,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3602,"start_s":3603,"end_s":3604,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},540,"224435","Vamos, tengo que desmitificar lo que se ha mezclado aquí.",2480.9,2483.52,{"idx":3606,"utterance_id":3607,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3608,"start_s":3609,"end_s":3610,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},541,"224436","Una cosa es la voluntad, la necesidad y la preocupación de las mujeres.",2483.68,2487.14,{"idx":3612,"utterance_id":3613,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3614,"start_s":3615,"end_s":3616,"word_count":193,"indexable":73},542,"224437","Otra cosa es el movimiento feminista, que es un movimiento estrictamente político, que instrumentaliza a la mujer como una herramienta política.",2487.18,2493.34,{"idx":3618,"utterance_id":3619,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3620,"start_s":3621,"end_s":3622,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":3623,"topic_label":3624,"target_id":3625,"target_proposition":3626,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":3627,"indexable":615},543,"224438","No estoy de acuerdo con el movimiento feminista brasileño.",2493.8,2495.58,"direitos-das-mulheres","Derechos de las mujeres","c7a667be-cd79-4b39-99b7-8f83b64598b3","promover políticas del movimiento feminista","Declara explícitamente no estar de acuerdo con el movimiento feminista brasileño.",{"idx":3629,"utterance_id":3630,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3631,"start_s":3632,"end_s":3633,"word_count":21,"indexable":73},544,"224439","Basta ver que el movimiento feminista brasileño siempre está ligado a un determinado nicho político, con actuación política junto a ese nicho.",2495.64,2502.32,{"idx":3635,"utterance_id":3636,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3637,"start_s":3638,"end_s":3639,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},545,"224440","El movimiento feminista es una forma en que las mujeres de izquierda se expresan políticamente.",2503.04,2506.32,{"idx":3641,"utterance_id":3642,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3643,"start_s":3644,"end_s":3645,"word_count":15,"indexable":73},546,"224441","Cuando uno recorre Brasil, el Brasil concreto, el Brasil real, que tuve la oportunidad de recorrer, no es una agenda feminista la que se discute con las mujeres en las favelas.",2507.06,2514.36,{"idx":3647,"utterance_id":3648,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3649,"start_s":3650,"end_s":3651,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},547,"224442","No se está discutiendo una agenda feminista.",2514.8,2515.98,{"idx":3653,"utterance_id":3654,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3655,"start_s":3656,"end_s":3657,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},548,"224443","No lo es. Es una agenda concreta del mundo real.",2516,2517.96,{"idx":3659,"utterance_id":3660,"speaker_name":68,"text":3661,"start_s":3662,"end_s":3663,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},549,"224444","No me refiero únicamente a la cuestión de Brasil.",2517.98,2519.08,{"idx":3665,"utterance_id":3666,"speaker_name":68,"text":3667,"start_s":3668,"end_s":3669,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},550,"224445","El movimiento feminista, desde su historia, la lucha de las mujeres por trabajar, la lucha de las mujeres por votar.",2519.1,2525.4,{"idx":3671,"utterance_id":3672,"speaker_name":68,"text":3673,"start_s":3674,"end_s":3675,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},551,"224446","¿Usted cree que ese movimiento no tiene importancia?",2526.3,2528.7,{"idx":3677,"utterance_id":3678,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3679,"start_s":3680,"end_s":3681,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},552,"224447","Hay que separar las olas de los movimientos feministas.",2529.38,2531.6,{"idx":3683,"utterance_id":3684,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3685,"start_s":3686,"end_s":3687,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},553,"224448","Está el movimiento sufragista; eso es una cosa.",2531.7,2533.86,{"idx":3689,"utterance_id":3690,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3691,"start_s":3692,"end_s":3693,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},554,"224449","O esa, no sé, Shulamita Firestone.",2534.04,2538.28,{"idx":3695,"utterance_id":3696,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3697,"start_s":3698,"end_s":3699,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},555,"224450","¿Ha visto las cosas que escribe esa mujer?",2538.46,2539.68,{"idx":3701,"utterance_id":3702,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3703,"start_s":3704,"end_s":3705,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},556,"224451","Es una mujer que odia a los hombres.",2540.58,2541.7,{"idx":3707,"utterance_id":3708,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3709,"start_s":3710,"end_s":3711,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},557,"224452","No creo en ningún movimiento que odie al otro sexo.",2541.84,2544.48,{"idx":3713,"utterance_id":3714,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3715,"start_s":3716,"end_s":3717,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":3623,"topic_label":3624,"target_id":3625,"target_proposition":3626,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":3718,"indexable":615},558,"224453","Hay elementos absolutamente antidemocráticos, violentos y radicales en el movimiento feminista que yo repudio.",2545.26,2549.84,"Llama a elementos del movimiento 'antidemocráticos, violentos e radicais'.",{"idx":3720,"utterance_id":3721,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3722,"start_s":3723,"end_s":3724,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},559,"224454","Y que ni siquiera deben formar parte del debate público.",2550.28,2552.08,{"idx":3726,"utterance_id":3727,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3728,"start_s":3729,"end_s":3730,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},560,"224455","Porque son puro odio.",2552.1,2553.28,{"idx":3732,"utterance_id":3733,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3734,"start_s":3735,"end_s":3736,"word_count":15,"indexable":73},561,"224456","Pero esos no se comentan, no quieren hablar, porque parece que la licencia poética para el uso de la violencia discursiva o práctica está permitida para los grupos de izquierda.",2553.9,2562.82,{"idx":3738,"utterance_id":3739,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3740,"start_s":3741,"end_s":3742,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},562,"224457","Y entonces, esas figuras pueden tener esa posición.",2563.44,2565.4,{"idx":3744,"utterance_id":3745,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3746,"start_s":3747,"end_s":3748,"word_count":193,"indexable":73},563,"224458","No estoy de acuerdo con su postura ni creo que eso aporte a Brasil o a las mujeres.",2565.42,2569.44,{"idx":3750,"utterance_id":3751,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3752,"start_s":3753,"end_s":3754,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},564,"224459","Cuando hablamos de proyectos, hay que mirar proyecto por proyecto.",2570,2572.96,{"idx":3756,"utterance_id":3757,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3758,"start_s":3759,"end_s":3760,"word_count":87,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3761,"target_proposition":3762,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":943,"rationale":3763,"indexable":615},565,"224460","Soy defensor del aumento de penas para todo tipo de delito violento.",2573.04,2576.26,"682217be-0504-4c09-9fb5-9d6627fbe955","aumentar las penas para delitos violentos y contra el patrimonio","Declara ser defensor del aumento de penas para todo tipo de delito violento.",{"idx":3765,"utterance_id":3766,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3767,"start_s":3768,"end_s":3769,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3761,"target_proposition":3762,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":3770,"indexable":615},566,"224461","La nueva tipificación ligada al feminicidio aumenta la pena.",2576.7,2579.26,"Señala que la nueva tipificación del feminicidio aumenta la pena y lo apoya.",{"idx":3772,"utterance_id":3773,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3774,"start_s":3775,"end_s":3776,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},567,"224462","Está bien.",2579.42,2579.78,{"idx":3778,"utterance_id":3779,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":1028,"start_s":3780,"end_s":3781,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},568,"224463",2580.44,2580.86,{"idx":3783,"utterance_id":3784,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3785,"start_s":3786,"end_s":3787,"word_count":110,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3761,"target_proposition":3762,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":3788,"indexable":73},569,"224464","Hay que aumentar la pena, de verdad.",2581.5,2582.28,"Afirma 'tem que aumentar a pena mesmo' para crímenes violentos.",{"idx":3790,"utterance_id":3791,"speaker_name":68,"text":3792,"start_s":3793,"end_s":3794,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},570,"224465","¿Además de la Maria da Penha?",2582.3,2583.06,{"idx":3796,"utterance_id":3797,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3798,"start_s":3799,"end_s":3800,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},571,"224466","También.",2583.14,2583.42,{"idx":3802,"utterance_id":3803,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3804,"start_s":3805,"end_s":3806,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},572,"224467","También porque Brasil tiene un brote de violencia en su conjunto.",2584.34,2587.6,{"idx":3808,"utterance_id":3809,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3810,"start_s":3811,"end_s":3812,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},573,"224468","¿La violencia también afecta a las mujeres?",2587.94,2589.14,{"idx":3814,"utterance_id":3815,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3816,"start_s":3817,"end_s":3818,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},574,"224469","Sí.",2589.2,2589.32,{"idx":3820,"utterance_id":3821,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3822,"start_s":3823,"end_s":3824,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},575,"224470","Las mujeres se organizaron, ese tema se volvió candente y se aumentó la pena.",2589.58,2592,{"idx":3826,"utterance_id":3827,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3828,"start_s":3829,"end_s":3830,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3761,"target_proposition":3762,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":3831,"indexable":615},576,"224471","Está bien, yo también quiero aumentarla para otros delitos.",2592.26,2594.32,"Dice que el aumento de penas para otros delitos también es deseado.",{"idx":3833,"utterance_id":3834,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3835,"start_s":3836,"end_s":3837,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},577,"224472","No es una cosa en detrimento de la otra.",2595.22,2596.66,{"idx":3839,"utterance_id":3840,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3841,"start_s":3842,"end_s":3843,"word_count":42,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":3844,"target_proposition":3845,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":3846,"indexable":615},578,"224473","Porque creo que los crímenes violentos en Brasil — Brasil es por excelencia el país del crimen violento en el mundo — deben ser combatidos con mucha violencia.",2596.68,2602.5,"e72a7277-35ed-440a-9092-7e2dc534e281","implementar medidas rigurosas de seguridad pública para combatir el crimen","Defiende combatir los crímenes violentos 'com muita violência'.",{"idx":3848,"utterance_id":3849,"speaker_name":68,"text":3850,"start_s":3851,"end_s":3852,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},579,"224474","¿Usted se declararía antifeminista o no?",2602.52,2605.42,{"idx":3854,"utterance_id":3855,"speaker_name":68,"text":3856,"start_s":3857,"end_s":3858,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},580,"224475","¿Usted se declararía feminista?",2605.58,2608.2,{"idx":3860,"utterance_id":3861,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3862,"start_s":3863,"end_s":3864,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},581,"224476","Me declaro pró-brasileños, especialmente pró-brasileños de bien, y eso incluye a todas las mujeres brasileñas.",2608.48,2613.44,{"idx":3866,"utterance_id":3867,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3868,"start_s":3869,"end_s":3870,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},582,"224477","No me voy a vincular a un movimiento... No veo cualidades en el nombre 'feminista'.",2613.74,2618.2,{"idx":3872,"utterance_id":3873,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3874,"start_s":3875,"end_s":3876,"word_count":108,"indexable":73},583,"224478","Creo que el movimiento feminista atrae a las mujeres y hace un uso instrumental de ellas.",2618.22,2621.62,{"idx":3878,"utterance_id":3879,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3880,"start_s":3881,"end_s":3882,"word_count":249,"indexable":73},584,"224479","Basta ver a las feministas en la Cámara de Diputados, que están poniendo mucha más énfasis en temas como, por ejemplo, el PL (Partido Liberal) de la misoginia, que en el aumento de penas para violaciones que afectan a mujeres.",2621.96,2629.62,{"idx":3884,"utterance_id":3885,"speaker_name":68,"text":3886,"start_s":3887,"end_s":3888,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},585,"224480","Candidato, el crimen de homicidio está en descenso en el país.",2630.42,2633.82,{"idx":3890,"utterance_id":3891,"speaker_name":68,"text":3892,"start_s":3893,"end_s":3894,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},586,"224481","El feminicidio, comparado con el de 2022 aquí en São Paulo, aumentó un 70%.",2635.66,2638.56,{"idx":3896,"utterance_id":3897,"speaker_name":68,"text":3898,"start_s":3899,"end_s":3900,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},587,"224482","¿Cuáles son sus propuestas para reducir el feminicidio específicamente?",2639.06,2642.04,{"idx":3902,"utterance_id":3903,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3904,"start_s":3905,"end_s":3906,"word_count":108,"indexable":73},588,"224483","Mire, de nuevo, esto es querer tomar un tipo de delito y hacer una extrapolación.",2642.14,2648.28,{"idx":3908,"utterance_id":3909,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3910,"start_s":3911,"end_s":3912,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},589,"224484","¿Por qué extrapolación?",2648.42,2649.14,{"idx":3914,"utterance_id":3915,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3916,"start_s":3917,"end_s":3918,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},590,"224485","Quienes más mueren en Brasil son hombres negros.",2650.84,2652.84,{"idx":3920,"utterance_id":3921,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3922,"start_s":3923,"end_s":3924,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},591,"224486","Me quedo medio sorprendido porque hace seis años era la vida.",2654,2656.74,{"idx":3926,"utterance_id":3927,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3928,"start_s":3929,"end_s":3930,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},592,"224487","las negras importan.",2656.76,2657.56,{"idx":3932,"utterance_id":3933,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3934,"start_s":3935,"end_s":3936,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},593,"224488","Y ahí sí que están muriendo de verdad.",2658.14,2659.16,{"idx":3938,"utterance_id":3939,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3940,"start_s":3941,"end_s":3942,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},594,"224489","Si usted va a mirar, las víctimas de feminicidio, el 67% son mujeres pardas o negras.",2659.18,2664.02,{"idx":3944,"utterance_id":3945,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3946,"start_s":3947,"end_s":3948,"word_count":94,"indexable":73},595,"224490","El resto de los que mueren víctimas de violencia, la mayor parte, son hombres negros.",2664.78,2668.76,{"idx":3950,"utterance_id":3951,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3952,"start_s":3953,"end_s":3954,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},596,"224491","Ustedes ya no hablan en la prensa de los hombres negros.",2669.66,2671.4,{"idx":3956,"utterance_id":3957,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3958,"start_s":3959,"end_s":3960,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},597,"224492","Pero no, hablan del feminicidio.",2671.78,2672.72,{"idx":3962,"utterance_id":3963,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3964,"start_s":3965,"end_s":3966,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},598,"224493","Diariamente mueren como unas 100 personas.",2672.74,2675,{"idx":3968,"utterance_id":3969,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3970,"start_s":3971,"end_s":3972,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},599,"224494","Puede estar bajando o subiendo; puede variar.",2675.38,2677.82,{"idx":3974,"utterance_id":3975,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3976,"start_s":3977,"end_s":3978,"word_count":108,"indexable":73},600,"224495","El feminicidio es el 4%, es decir, 4 de esas 100 personas que mueren son víctimas de feminicidio.",2678.04,2682.4,{"idx":3980,"utterance_id":3981,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3982,"start_s":3983,"end_s":3984,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},601,"224496","Y eso tiene que tener toda la atención del Estado.",2682.58,2684.68,{"idx":3986,"utterance_id":3987,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3988,"start_s":3989,"end_s":3990,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},602,"224497","Otras 12 personas que mueren ese mismo día de las 100 son niños o adolescentes.",2685.06,2690.38,{"idx":3992,"utterance_id":3993,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":3994,"start_s":3995,"end_s":3996,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},603,"224498","Nadie me pregunta por esas personas.",2691.24,2692.62,{"idx":3998,"utterance_id":3999,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4000,"start_s":4001,"end_s":4002,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},604,"224499","¿Y los negros se olvidaron?",2692.76,2693.98,{"idx":4004,"utterance_id":4005,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4006,"start_s":4007,"end_s":4008,"word_count":59,"indexable":73},605,"224500","Porque yo siempre pregunto por eso, yo tengo que resolverlo, tengo que disminuir todo tipo de violencia como presidente de la república.",2694.54,2699.92,{"idx":4010,"utterance_id":4011,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4012,"start_s":4013,"end_s":4014,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},606,"224501","Violencia contra los negros, contra las mujeres, contra los niños.",2700.26,2701.92,{"idx":4016,"utterance_id":4017,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4018,"start_s":4019,"end_s":4020,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},607,"224502","No voy a decir solo, ah, ¿qué va a hacer usted para el feminicidio?",2702.26,2704.4,{"idx":4022,"utterance_id":4023,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4024,"start_s":4025,"end_s":4026,"word_count":179,"indexable":73},608,"224503","Los municipios y los estados tienen políticas de lucha contra el feminicidio y ya se han aprobado legislaciones específicas que, cuando se aplican, funcionan bien.",2704.5,2711.36,{"idx":4028,"utterance_id":4029,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4030,"start_s":4031,"end_s":4032,"word_count":352,"topic_slug":45,"topic_label":41,"target_id":4033,"target_proposition":4034,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":4035,"indexable":615},609,"224504","Mi ley de responsabilidad gerencial, llegué a responder eso en Globo News, va a tomar las políticas, por ejemplo, que funcionan y las va a poner como criterio de evaluación para, inclusive, el envío de enmiendas y para servicios, para... para atribuir la puntuación que los alcaldes van a tener.",2711.68,2725.4,"68790bd0-7f2e-49bc-a62d-41b47af24ffc","condicionar el envío de enmiendas y recursos a criterios de evaluación de políticas públicas","Dice que su ley utilizará políticas que funcionan como criterio para el envío de enmiendas.",{"idx":4037,"utterance_id":4038,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4039,"start_s":4040,"end_s":4041,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},610,"224505","Eso es lo que vamos a hacer.",2725.82,2726.66,{"idx":4043,"utterance_id":4044,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4045,"start_s":4046,"end_s":4047,"word_count":187,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":4048,"target_proposition":4049,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":4050,"indexable":615},611,"224506","Ahora, cuando abordo ese asunto, lo que no voy a hacer es esa aproximación, elegir solo un recorte.",2727.08,2731.4,"b0b1a070-1439-4481-9b03-5173bf7b7ca0","implementar políticas públicas universales que aumenten la seguridad","Rechaza el foco exclusivo en el feminicidio, proponiendo un enfoque universal.",{"idx":4052,"utterance_id":4053,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4054,"start_s":4055,"end_s":4056,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},612,"224507","Mire, esta elección es solo para hablar sobre la violencia contra la mujer.",2731.52,2733.8,{"idx":4058,"utterance_id":4059,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4060,"start_s":4061,"end_s":4062,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},613,"224508","Que existe, que tiene que ser combatida, pero que no es toda la violencia que existe.",2734.3,2738.7,{"idx":4064,"utterance_id":4065,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4066,"start_s":4067,"end_s":4068,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},614,"224509","Si no, ¿qué voy a decir?",2738.92,2739.7,{"idx":4070,"utterance_id":4071,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4072,"start_s":4073,"end_s":4074,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},615,"224510","Una persona negra me va a ver y va a decirme, 'pero nosotros estamos muriendo'.",2739.88,2742.38,{"idx":4076,"utterance_id":4077,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4078,"start_s":4079,"end_s":4080,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},616,"224511","No, no, en esta elección ustedes no son el tema.",2742.58,2744.84,{"idx":4082,"utterance_id":4083,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4084,"start_s":4085,"end_s":4086,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},617,"224512","Olvídense, vuelvan a su cajita aquí.",2745.12,2746.82,{"idx":4088,"utterance_id":4089,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4090,"start_s":4091,"end_s":4092,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},618,"224513","La minoría elegida no fueron ustedes para esta elección.",2747.68,2749.82,{"idx":4094,"utterance_id":4095,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4096,"start_s":4097,"end_s":4098,"word_count":59,"indexable":73},619,"224514","Entonces, voy a hablar del feminicidio, pero voy a hablar de todo tipo de muertes de brasileños, todo tipo de violencia.",2750.2,2754.5,{"idx":4100,"utterance_id":4101,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4102,"start_s":4103,"end_s":4104,"word_count":181,"topic_slug":2837,"topic_label":2838,"target_id":4105,"target_proposition":4106,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1824,"rationale":4107,"indexable":615},620,"224515","Otra cosa que no se dice, son 250 mil casos de violencia contra la mujer reportados por año.",2754.84,2760.32,"0715a6e0-617c-4e63-a73a-d0109b5178c5","implementar políticas universales que aumenten la notificación de violencia contra la mujer","Afirma que las políticas universales, cuando se implementan, aumentan la notificación.",{"idx":4109,"utterance_id":4110,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4111,"start_s":4112,"end_s":4113,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},621,"224516","Es muy poco el reporte.",2760.86,2762.9,{"idx":4115,"utterance_id":4116,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4117,"start_s":4118,"end_s":4119,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},622,"224517","Si reportaran todo, sería mucho más.",2763.78,2765.24,{"idx":4121,"utterance_id":4122,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4123,"start_s":4124,"end_s":4125,"word_count":42,"indexable":73},623,"224518","La estimación es que es un número mucho mayor, porque las mujeres en el interior tienen miedo de denunciar y las chicas en las favelas no denuncian por miedo a represalias.",2765.28,2772.32,{"idx":4127,"utterance_id":4128,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4129,"start_s":4130,"end_s":4131,"word_count":174,"indexable":73},624,"224519","Todas nuestras políticas, que son políticas universales para el brasileño, cuando se implementen, aumentarán la notificación.",2772.9,2778.22,{"idx":4133,"utterance_id":4134,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4135,"start_s":4136,"end_s":4137,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},625,"224520","Y al aumentar la notificación, aumenta el combate.",2778.9,2780.56,{"idx":4139,"utterance_id":4140,"speaker_name":68,"text":4141,"start_s":4142,"end_s":4143,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},626,"224521","Usted habla sobre la muerte de los negros en las periferias, muchas de esas muertes provocadas por policías, la violencia policial.",2780.78,2786.42,{"idx":4145,"utterance_id":4146,"speaker_name":68,"text":4147,"start_s":4148,"end_s":4149,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},627,"224522","Y eso es curioso, porque es algo que usted defiende, inclusive.",2787.12,2790.7,{"idx":4151,"utterance_id":4152,"speaker_name":68,"text":4153,"start_s":4154,"end_s":4155,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":4156,"topic_label":4157,"target_id":4158,"target_proposition":4159,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":4160,"indexable":615},628,"224523","Por ejemplo, que los policías maten, y a veces la muerte sea de un negro.",2791.34,2795.66,"abuso-de-autoridade","Abuso de Autoridad","66f64cee-3b24-4497-997b-8757dc3709eb","reducir muertes cometidas por policías","Relata la ocurrencia de muertes por parte de policías, sin proponer acción.",{"idx":4162,"utterance_id":4163,"speaker_name":68,"text":4164,"start_s":4165,"end_s":4166,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},629,"224524","Muchas veces.",2795.82,2796.38,{"idx":63,"utterance_id":4168,"speaker_name":68,"text":4169,"start_s":4170,"end_s":4171,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},"224525","¿Hay algún conflicto ahí?",2796.64,2798.1,{"idx":4173,"utterance_id":4174,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4175,"start_s":4176,"end_s":4177,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":4178,"target_proposition":4179,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":4180,"indexable":615},631,"224526","Ninguna, porque la mayor parte de las víctimas de violencia en Brasil, las víctimas mortales de la violencia, son víctimas de intercambios de disparos entre delincuentes.",2798.46,2806.48,"0552c460-1c26-4e27-8870-466e281c3a6b","reducir homicidios y violencia","Afirma que la mayor parte de las muertes son tiroteos entre criminales.",{"idx":4182,"utterance_id":4183,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4184,"start_s":4185,"end_s":4186,"word_count":174,"topic_slug":4156,"topic_label":4157,"target_id":4158,"target_proposition":4159,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":4187,"indexable":615},632,"224527","Si no me equivoco, el número de muertes vinculadas a la actividad policial es, en total, el 18%.",2807.22,2813.12,"Proporciona la estadística (18%) sobre muertes relacionadas con la actividad policial.",{"idx":4189,"utterance_id":4190,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4191,"start_s":4192,"end_s":4193,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":4156,"topic_label":4157,"target_id":4158,"target_proposition":4159,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":4194,"indexable":615},633,"224528","En su gran mayoría, muertes justificadas por enfrentamientos.",2813.86,2816.96,"Afirma que la mayoría de las muertes está justificada por conflicto.",{"idx":4196,"utterance_id":4197,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4198,"start_s":4199,"end_s":4200,"word_count":80,"topic_slug":4156,"topic_label":4157,"target_id":4201,"target_proposition":4202,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":4203,"indexable":615},634,"224529","Y en uno u otro caso, se puede tener, específicamente, algún caso vinculado a veces a un exceso cometido por un policía.",2817.46,2822.64,"99fdc4b4-d619-4bc0-b3f8-ff922c6cbf05","reducir abusos cometidos por policías","Reconoce casos puntuales de exceso policial, sin proponer políticas.",{"idx":4205,"utterance_id":4206,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4207,"start_s":4208,"end_s":4209,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":4210,"topic_label":4211,"target_id":4212,"target_proposition":4213,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":4214,"indexable":615},635,"224530","Dicho eso, la mayor parte de los negros son víctimas de otras personas que los están matando y que no son policías.",2823.2,2827.98,"combate-a-discriminacao","Combate a la Discriminación","e43e33ca-b819-483a-a1d2-d50ad159abf3","reducir homicidios contra la población negra","Afirma que la mayoría de los negros son víctimas de personas que no son policías.",{"idx":4216,"utterance_id":4217,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4218,"start_s":4219,"end_s":4220,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":4210,"topic_label":4211,"target_id":4212,"target_proposition":4213,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":4221,"indexable":73},636,"224531","Pero esa es la gran mayoría, la diferencia es incomparable.",2828.18,2830.86,"Enfatiza la desigualdad entre las víctimas, sin proponer una acción específica.",{"idx":4223,"utterance_id":4224,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4225,"start_s":4226,"end_s":4227,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":4228,"target_proposition":4229,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":4230,"indexable":615},637,"224532","Entonces, si quiere hablar en términos estadísticos, tenemos que reducir la violencia en su conjunto, la impunidad en su conjunto.",2831.36,2836.86,"32408c11-642e-4619-9f8a-519d006882eb","reducir la violencia","Dice 'temos que diminuir a violência como um todo' explícitamente.",{"idx":4232,"utterance_id":4233,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4234,"start_s":4235,"end_s":4236,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},638,"224533","Y este es un gran tema.",2837.92,2839.18,{"idx":4238,"utterance_id":4239,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4240,"start_s":4241,"end_s":4242,"word_count":141,"indexable":73},639,"224534","La cuestión, para mí, central es elegir a la víctima del momento.",2839.46,2843,{"idx":4244,"utterance_id":4245,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4246,"start_s":4247,"end_s":4248,"word_count":147,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":4249,"target_proposition":4250,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":2908,"rationale":4251,"indexable":73},640,"224535","Todo el mundo quiere hablar de feminicidio, es obvio que es un problema.",2843.74,2845.64,"ca5aa57b-0f07-4eef-81dc-fedd283b699b","priorizar la agenda de seguridad para las víctimas más vulnerables","Comenta sobre la elección de 'vítima do momento' en el debate público.",{"idx":4253,"utterance_id":4254,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4255,"start_s":4256,"end_s":4257,"word_count":110,"topic_slug":4258,"topic_label":4259,"target_id":4260,"target_proposition":4261,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":4262,"indexable":73},641,"224536","Pero fue elegido para la selección.",2845.98,2847.04,"violencia-contra-a-mulher-e-protecao-as-mulheres","Violencia contra la mujer y protección","e64493f0-fccf-4995-b4b1-83cf32100776","reducir los casos de feminicidio","Reconoce el feminicidio como un problema, sin presentar una propuesta concreta.",{"idx":4264,"utterance_id":4265,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4266,"start_s":4267,"end_s":4268,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},642,"224537","solo preguntar sobre ese tema.",2847.1,2848.08,{"idx":4270,"utterance_id":4271,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4272,"start_s":4273,"end_s":4274,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},643,"224538","Y entonces yo pregunto, ¿se olvidaron de los negros?",2848.52,2849.88,{"idx":4276,"utterance_id":4277,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4278,"start_s":4279,"end_s":4280,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},644,"224539","¿Se olvidaron?",2850.66,2850.96,{"idx":4282,"utterance_id":4283,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4284,"start_s":4285,"end_s":4286,"word_count":181,"topic_slug":4258,"topic_label":4259,"target_id":4260,"target_proposition":4261,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":4287,"indexable":615},645,"224540","Porque esas son... Las mujeres víctimas del feminicidio, por lo general, no son mujeres blancas de clase media.",2850.98,2856.44,"Afirma el perfil de las víctimas de feminicidio (periferia), tono descriptivo.",{"idx":4289,"utterance_id":4290,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4291,"start_s":4292,"end_s":4293,"word_count":265,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":4228,"target_proposition":4229,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":4294,"indexable":615},646,"224541","Son las mujeres de las mismas periferias... de las que hablo cuando digo resolver el problema de la violencia, destruir el crimen organizado, llevar una comisaría de policía, aplicar una política de erradicación de favelas y garantizar la ciudadanía.",2856.72,2866.84,"Afirma 'estou falando em resolver o problema da violência'.",{"idx":4296,"utterance_id":4297,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4298,"start_s":4299,"end_s":4300,"word_count":87,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":4301,"target_proposition":4302,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":4303,"indexable":73},647,"224542","En el fondo, cuando cruzamos los datos, las correlaciones muestran determinados patrones.",2867.4,2872.26,"d1d2025b-59ab-4c83-8297-105535d9cb3b","adoptar políticas públicas basadas en evidencia","Dice que el cruce de datos muestra patrones, observación descriptiva.",{"idx":4305,"utterance_id":4306,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4307,"start_s":4308,"end_s":4309,"word_count":277,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":4310,"target_proposition":4311,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":4312,"indexable":615},648,"224543","Y un patrón terrible es que donde hay poca presencia del Estado, donde hay impunidad, donde hay leyes blandas, todo tipo de delito florece, incluido el crimen contra la mujer, que suele ser la mayor de las cobardías.",2872.82,2883.54,"642d9b44-2b7a-40cf-bb42-ac23fd0653ed","ampliar el alcance de las políticas públicas a las poblaciones vulnerables","Relaciona la escasa presencia del Estado con la proliferación del crimen.",{"idx":4314,"utterance_id":4315,"speaker_name":68,"text":4316,"start_s":4317,"end_s":4318,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":608,"topic_label":609,"target_id":4319,"target_proposition":4320,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":4321,"indexable":73},649,"224544","Hay un aspecto que tal vez convierta a las mujeres en tema central de una elección en Brasil.",2885,2891.64,"0ea8c7e1-0ab3-4ec4-bf09-166eb6d36dbc","considerar al electorado femenino en las estrategias electorales","Afirma que las mujeres pueden transformar el tema en el eje central de la elección.",{"idx":4323,"utterance_id":4324,"speaker_name":68,"text":4325,"start_s":4326,"end_s":4327,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":608,"topic_label":609,"target_id":4328,"target_proposition":4329,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":4330,"indexable":73},650,"224545","es el hecho de que ellas son mayoría.",2891.8,2893.12,"533a3d67-11f0-456c-bc56-50e5c011a888","reconocer la predominancia del electorado femenino","Presenta una estadística sobre la participación femenina en el electorado.",{"idx":883,"utterance_id":4332,"speaker_name":68,"text":4333,"start_s":4334,"end_s":4335,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":608,"topic_label":609,"target_id":4336,"target_proposition":4337,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":4338,"indexable":615},"224546","Hoy el electorado femenino en Brasil representa el 52,8% de los votos, casi el 53%.",2893.86,2899.52,"cdcf0920-09c3-4c9d-ab5a-f76630f6ee46","considerar al electorado femenino en las estrategias de campaña","Indica el porcentaje del electorado femenino (52,8%), dato informativo.",{"idx":4340,"utterance_id":4341,"speaker_name":68,"text":4342,"start_s":4343,"end_s":4344,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":4345,"topic_label":4346,"target_id":4347,"target_proposition":4348,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":4349,"indexable":73},652,"224547","De ahí la prominencia del tema, porque hay una subrepresentación del universo femenino en la vida política de Brasil, en la vida administrativa, en la vida empresarial.",2902.24,2912.3,"igualdade-de-genero","Igualdad de género","525a8986-b0b1-4a38-a135-4fde515feb3f","aumentar la participación femenina en candidaturas mayoritarias y en el parlamento","Señala la subrepresentación femenina en la vida política y empresarial.",{"idx":4351,"utterance_id":4352,"speaker_name":68,"text":4353,"start_s":4354,"end_s":4355,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":4345,"topic_label":4346,"target_id":4356,"target_proposition":4357,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":4358,"indexable":73},653,"224548","Las mujeres ganan menos.",2913.16,2914.5,"3806e9e7-04b2-4a13-9a46-fcd250265ab7","garantizar el mismo salario entre mujeres y hombres cuando desempeñen la misma función","Afirma que las mujeres ganan menos, sin proponer una medida específica.",{"idx":4360,"utterance_id":4361,"speaker_name":68,"text":4362,"start_s":4363,"end_s":4364,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},654,"224549","Ahora mismo.",2915.22,2915.76,{"idx":4366,"utterance_id":4367,"speaker_name":68,"text":4368,"start_s":4369,"end_s":4370,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},655,"224550","hubo una discusión recientemente.",2915.82,2917.44,{"idx":4372,"utterance_id":4373,"speaker_name":68,"text":4374,"start_s":4375,"end_s":4376,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":4377,"target_proposition":4378,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":2908,"rationale":4379,"indexable":73},656,"224551","Presidentes sucesivamente designan amigos, compinches para el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal).",2918.4,2925.44,"5a590588-e3a2-4384-8285-bf0f30d4c5d0","reformular el proceso de nombramiento de ministros del STF","Afirma que los presidentes designan amigos para el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal), tono crítico.",{"idx":4381,"utterance_id":4382,"speaker_name":68,"text":4383,"start_s":4384,"end_s":4385,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":4386,"topic_label":4387,"target_id":4388,"target_proposition":4389,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":4390,"indexable":73},657,"224552","Y hubo un debate, un debate que movilizó a algunas personas y entidades en defensa del nombramiento de una mujer para el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal).",2926.22,2935.64,"judiciario-genero","Poder Judicial \u002F Género","72f745d5-b4b1-45e2-ae74-79eff0afe4bd","nombrar más mujeres para el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal)","Relata un debate en defensa del nombramiento de una mujer para el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal).",{"idx":4392,"utterance_id":4393,"speaker_name":68,"text":4394,"start_s":4395,"end_s":4396,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":4386,"topic_label":4387,"target_id":4388,"target_proposition":4389,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":4397,"indexable":615},658,"224553","Hay solo una mujer hoy, ya hubo dos, una se jubiló, hoy solo hay una.",2935.84,2939.6,"Informa el número actual de ministras, declaración factual.",{"idx":4399,"utterance_id":4400,"speaker_name":68,"text":4401,"start_s":4402,"end_s":4403,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":4386,"topic_label":4387,"target_id":4388,"target_proposition":4389,"stance":1352,"stance_confidence":1353,"rationale":4404,"indexable":73},659,"224554","¿Este tipo de discusión para usted es superficial?",2940.68,2944.26,"Pregunta si esa discusión es superficial, sin una posición clara.",{"idx":4406,"utterance_id":4407,"speaker_name":68,"text":4408,"start_s":4409,"end_s":4410,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},660,"224555","Son discusiones que no deben librarse.",2946.62,2950.24,{"idx":4412,"utterance_id":4413,"speaker_name":68,"text":4414,"start_s":4415,"end_s":4416,"word_count":193,"topic_slug":4345,"topic_label":4346,"target_id":4356,"target_proposition":4357,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1146,"rationale":4417,"indexable":73},661,"224556","La cuestión salarial, la cuestión de la representatividad femenina en el Parlamento, en el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal), en el Poder Judicial, en el propio gobierno, en el Ministerio.",2950.74,2962.26,"Enumera cuestiones salariales y de representatividad, tono descriptivo.",{"idx":4419,"utterance_id":4420,"speaker_name":68,"text":4421,"start_s":4422,"end_s":4423,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},662,"224557","¿Cree usted que eso es prescindible, ese tipo de debate?",2962.42,2965.56,{"idx":4425,"utterance_id":4426,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4427,"start_s":4428,"end_s":4429,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":4430,"topic_label":4431,"target_id":4432,"target_proposition":4433,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1300,"rationale":4434,"indexable":615},663,"224558","Creo que todo debate que se lleva al terreno de la \"lacração\" es prescindible.",2966.16,2968.66,"debate-politico","Debate político","8e71ea69-cf72-40cb-97b4-01af7500a18a","evitar debates performativos en política","Dice explícitamente que los debates de 'lacração' son prescindibles.",{"idx":4436,"utterance_id":4437,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4438,"start_s":4439,"end_s":4440,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},664,"224559","Todo debate que se lleva al terreno de la seriedad es serio.",2968.82,2971.18,{"idx":4442,"utterance_id":4443,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4444,"start_s":4445,"end_s":4446,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},665,"224560","Es muy simple.",2971.76,2972.36,{"idx":4448,"utterance_id":4449,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4450,"start_s":4451,"end_s":4452,"word_count":181,"indexable":73},666,"224561","Si hubo declaraciones de determinados candidatos de que la crisis en el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) se resolvería nombrando ministras para el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal).",2972.74,2977.74,{"idx":4454,"utterance_id":4455,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4456,"start_s":4457,"end_s":4458,"word_count":110,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":4459,"target_proposition":4460,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":4461,"indexable":73},667,"224562","No es eso lo que va a resolver.",2978.08,2978.96,"711380b8-c6c4-44c0-890b-469f9fc5f6b7","nombrar mujeres al STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) que cumplan criterios legalistas","Afirma 'Não é isso que vai resolver' sobre esa propuesta.",{"idx":4463,"utterance_id":4464,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4456,"start_s":4465,"end_s":4466,"word_count":110,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":4459,"target_proposition":4460,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":613,"rationale":4467,"indexable":73},668,"224563",2980.28,2980.96,"Reitera que esa medida no resolvería la crisis en el STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal).",{"idx":4469,"utterance_id":4470,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4471,"start_s":4472,"end_s":4473,"word_count":94,"topic_slug":39,"topic_label":36,"target_id":4459,"target_proposition":4460,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":4474,"indexable":615},669,"224564","Si hay mujeres cualificadas para ocupar el cargo, están listas para ocuparlo.",2981.28,2984.36,"Afirma que mujeres calificadas están listas para ocupar cargos.",{"idx":4476,"utterance_id":4477,"speaker_name":68,"text":4478,"start_s":4479,"end_s":4480,"word_count":108,"indexable":73},670,"224565","Y hay grandes juristas... ¿Cree que las mujeres están subrepresentadas hoy en el Legislativo, en el Poder Judicial...",2984.42,2989.68,{"idx":60,"utterance_id":4482,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4483,"start_s":4484,"end_s":4485,"word_count":42,"topic_slug":4486,"topic_label":4487,"target_id":4488,"target_proposition":4489,"stance":1324,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":4490,"indexable":615},"224566","Ah, pero ¿no considera usted, que es paradójico, que aun siendo la mayoría del electorado, ellas decidan democráticamente no votar por otras mujeres?",2989.7,2996.42,"politica-de-genero-e-educacao","Política de Género y Educación","b91998bb-04ab-47e2-9dfd-addf48b0835c","estudiar el comportamiento electoral de las electoras","Observa que las electoras muchas veces no votan por otras mujeres.",{"idx":4492,"utterance_id":4493,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4494,"start_s":4495,"end_s":4496,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},672,"224567","Y sé por qué eso sucede, en gran medida.",2996.44,2998.84,{"idx":4498,"utterance_id":4499,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4500,"start_s":4501,"end_s":4502,"word_count":87,"indexable":73},673,"224568","Es porque la política es un medio altamente competitivo, altamente agresivo para las mujeres.",2999.44,3003.58,{"idx":4504,"utterance_id":4505,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4506,"start_s":4507,"end_s":4508,"word_count":187,"indexable":73},674,"224569","Vi lo que le pasó a Amanda Vettorazo, que es una de nuestras lideresas, es mi coordinadora de campaña.",3003.6,3007.48,{"idx":4510,"utterance_id":4511,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4512,"start_s":4513,"end_s":4514,"word_count":48,"indexable":73},675,"224570","Al tener una posición política, las cosas que le hacen a ella y a otras lideresas femeninas, y lo veo en nuestro grupo, son terribles.",3007.88,3014.14,{"idx":4516,"utterance_id":4517,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4518,"start_s":4519,"end_s":4520,"word_count":147,"indexable":73},676,"224571","Desde montajes de imágenes de ellas desnudas hasta la invasión de la casa de esas personas.",3014.16,3017.94,{"idx":4522,"utterance_id":4523,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4524,"start_s":4525,"end_s":4526,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},677,"224572","Es muy fuerte.",3018.78,3019.68,{"idx":4528,"utterance_id":4529,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4530,"start_s":4531,"end_s":4532,"word_count":126,"indexable":73},678,"224573","Eso es uno de los elementos que aprendí en el universo de la política: ser candidata.",3020.34,3023.86,{"idx":4534,"utterance_id":4535,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4536,"start_s":4537,"end_s":4538,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},679,"224574","Para la mujer es más difícil.",3023.88,3024.72,{"idx":4540,"utterance_id":4541,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4542,"start_s":4543,"end_s":4544,"word_count":322,"topic_slug":4545,"topic_label":4546,"target_id":4547,"target_proposition":4548,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":4549,"indexable":615},680,"224575","Y vea, yo era, digamos, poco... Para mí no estaba presente en las discusiones sobre violencia política de género, hasta que empezó a suceder con nosotros, y tenemos que establecer internamente una política de protección, porque lo que ocurre es fuerte.",3024.98,3037.34,"violencia-politica-e-impunidade","Violencia política e impunidad","91b2da17-5585-4b5b-ae73-d884406bc6c6","proteger contra la violencia política de género","Dice 'a gente tem que... estabelecer uma política de proteção' claramente.",{"idx":4551,"utterance_id":4552,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4553,"start_s":4554,"end_s":4555,"word_count":15,"indexable":73},681,"224576","Entonces tiene elementos que son concretos; allí tiene un elemento concreto: la disputa política es dura, y las mujeres se alejan por la naturaleza extremadamente despreciable y violenta que existe en la política.",3037.9,3047.94,{"idx":4557,"utterance_id":4558,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4559,"start_s":4560,"end_s":4561,"word_count":4,"indexable":73},682,"224577","No solo la retórica, sino el juego sucio que ocurre.",3048.24,3050.38,{"idx":4563,"utterance_id":4564,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4565,"start_s":4566,"end_s":4567,"word_count":87,"topic_slug":4545,"topic_label":4546,"target_id":4568,"target_proposition":4569,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":1132,"rationale":4570,"indexable":615},683,"224578","Ahora bien, es un problema que podemos discutir, podemos abordar, y no hay problema en ello.",3051.42,3055.88,"e55073cc-de95-40a9-adc7-56d0a35fcdb9","denunciar y enfrentar la violencia política de género","Afirma que el problema puede y debe ser discutido y abordado.",{"idx":4572,"utterance_id":4573,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4574,"start_s":4575,"end_s":4576,"word_count":157,"indexable":73},684,"224579","La cuestión entera es... Por ser... Ah, la mujer es la mayoría del electorado, entonces voy a tomar todos los temas y voy a lanzarlos ahí.",3056.18,3061.9,{"idx":4578,"utterance_id":4579,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4580,"start_s":4581,"end_s":4582,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},685,"224580","¿Para qué?",3062.06,3062.34,{"idx":4584,"utterance_id":4585,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4586,"start_s":4587,"end_s":4588,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},686,"224581","¿Para ser populista?",3062.38,3063.14,{"idx":4590,"utterance_id":4591,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4592,"start_s":4593,"end_s":4594,"word_count":147,"topic_slug":56,"topic_label":53,"target_id":4595,"target_proposition":4596,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":4597,"indexable":615},687,"224582","Voy a tratar los temas de todos los brasileños, incluidas las minorías.",3063.16,3065.8,"5c9164c9-b599-4462-b20d-467957e02a4d","formular políticas públicas inclusivas para las minorías","Promete abordar temas de todos, incluyendo a las minorías.",{"idx":4599,"utterance_id":4600,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4601,"start_s":4602,"end_s":4603,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":4604,"topic_label":4605,"target_id":4606,"target_proposition":4607,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":4608,"indexable":615},688,"224583","Porque las minorías también tienen que tener voz.",3066.12,3067.56,"direitos-das-minorias","Derechos de las Minorías","b30a954c-d72f-44b9-8935-0c3afb0ffc68","garantizar representación y voz para minorías","Declara que las minorías también deben tener voz, tono afirmativo.",{"idx":4610,"utterance_id":4611,"speaker_name":68,"text":4612,"start_s":4613,"end_s":4614,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},689,"224584","Candidato, vamos a nuestra recta final de la entrevista.",3068.18,3070.96,{"idx":4616,"utterance_id":4617,"speaker_name":68,"text":4618,"start_s":4619,"end_s":4620,"word_count":179,"indexable":73},690,"224585","Ráfaga de preguntas, que son preguntas más rápidas para que podamos decir sí o no, en contra o a favor o hacer una elección.",3071.08,3076.06,{"idx":4622,"utterance_id":4623,"speaker_name":68,"text":4624,"start_s":4625,"end_s":4626,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},691,"224586","MBL o misión?",3076.62,3077.5,{"idx":4628,"utterance_id":4629,"speaker_name":68,"text":4630,"start_s":4631,"end_s":4632,"word_count":82,"indexable":73},692,"224587","Los dos.",3078.66,3079.06,{"idx":54,"utterance_id":4634,"speaker_name":68,"text":4635,"start_s":4636,"end_s":4637,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},"224588","Cámara en el uniforme de la policía, ¿en contra o a favor?",3079.98,3082.16,{"idx":4639,"utterance_id":4640,"speaker_name":68,"text":4641,"start_s":4642,"end_s":4643,"word_count":89,"indexable":73},694,"224589","Luego, a favor.",3083.38,3084.02,{"idx":4645,"utterance_id":4646,"speaker_name":68,"text":4647,"start_s":4648,"end_s":4649,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},695,"224590","¿Después?",3084.84,3085.32,{"idx":4651,"utterance_id":4652,"speaker_name":68,"text":4653,"start_s":4654,"end_s":4655,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},696,"224591","De mi guerra contra el crimen.",3085.46,3086.4,{"idx":4657,"utterance_id":4658,"speaker_name":68,"text":4659,"start_s":4660,"end_s":4661,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},697,"224592","¿Después de la guerra contra el crimen?",3087.52,3088.8,{"idx":956,"utterance_id":4663,"speaker_name":68,"text":4664,"start_s":4665,"end_s":4666,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},"224593","Lógico.",3088.82,3088.94,{"idx":4668,"utterance_id":4669,"speaker_name":68,"text":4670,"start_s":4671,"end_s":4672,"word_count":103,"indexable":73},699,"224594","La guerra no será filmada.",3089.58,3090.9,{"idx":4674,"utterance_id":4675,"speaker_name":68,"text":4676,"start_s":4677,"end_s":4678,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},700,"224595","Voto impreso, ¿en contra o a favor?",3092.28,3093.96,{"idx":4680,"utterance_id":4681,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4682,"start_s":4683,"end_s":4684,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":608,"topic_label":609,"target_id":4685,"target_proposition":4686,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":4687,"indexable":615},701,"224596","En términos valorativos yo estoy a favor, pero en el momento en que se discutió, aquello tenía otra inclinación, no era para mejorar la democracia.",3097.46,3103.16,"871c395e-0826-406c-9b67-00159b790ece","introducir voto impreso","Dice explícitamente 'em termos valorativos eu sou a favor'.",{"idx":4689,"utterance_id":4690,"speaker_name":68,"text":4691,"start_s":4692,"end_s":4693,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},702,"224597","¿Betis?",3103.2,3103.74,{"idx":4695,"utterance_id":4696,"speaker_name":68,"text":4697,"start_s":4698,"end_s":4699,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},703,"224598","En contra.",3104.26,3104.62,{"idx":4701,"utterance_id":4702,"speaker_name":68,"text":4703,"start_s":4704,"end_s":4705,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},704,"224599","¿Fin de la escala 6 por 1?",3104.96,3106.28,{"idx":4707,"utterance_id":4708,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4709,"start_s":4710,"end_s":4711,"word_count":116,"topic_slug":4712,"topic_label":4713,"target_id":4714,"target_proposition":4715,"stance":942,"stance_confidence":1325,"rationale":4716,"indexable":73},705,"224600","De la manera en que se hizo, completamente en contra.",3107.44,3109.78,"relacoes-internacionais-trabalho","Relaciones Internacionales \u002F Trabajo","f67697cf-1bf4-4265-bfd0-08d59fefc47e","acabar con la escala seis por uno sin reducción salarial","Responde 'Da maneira como foi feita, completamente contra'.",{"idx":4718,"utterance_id":4719,"speaker_name":68,"text":4720,"start_s":4721,"end_s":4722,"word_count":96,"indexable":73},706,"224601","¿En contra o a favor?",3110.1,3110.78,{"idx":4724,"utterance_id":4725,"speaker_name":68,"text":4726,"start_s":4727,"end_s":4728,"word_count":110,"indexable":73},707,"224602","¿el fin de la tasa de las camisetas?",3110.82,3112.18,{"idx":4730,"utterance_id":4731,"speaker_name":68,"text":4732,"start_s":4733,"end_s":4734,"word_count":128,"topic_slug":4735,"topic_label":4736,"target_id":4737,"target_proposition":4738,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":4739,"indexable":615},708,"224603","Estoy a favor del fin de la tasa de las camisetas.",3112.82,3114.88,"politica-tarifaria","Política tarifaria","df041b3c-ae84-4c2b-972e-cab9bf7e08e3","revocar la 'tasa de las camisetas' que grava compras de bajo valor","Declaración directa: 'Sou a favor do fim da taxa das blusinhas'.",{"idx":4741,"utterance_id":4742,"speaker_name":68,"text":4743,"start_s":4744,"end_s":4745,"word_count":116,"indexable":73},709,"224604","¿Es necesario prohibir la discordia en Brasil?",3115.28,3117.28,{"idx":4747,"utterance_id":4748,"speaker_name":68,"text":4749,"start_s":4750,"end_s":4751,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},710,"224605","No.",3118.56,3118.76,{"idx":4753,"utterance_id":4754,"speaker_name":68,"text":4755,"start_s":4756,"end_s":4757,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},711,"224606","¿Usted está a favor de la legalización del aborto?",3119.12,3120.8,{"idx":4759,"utterance_id":4760,"speaker_name":68,"text":4749,"start_s":4761,"end_s":4762,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},712,"224607",3121.72,3121.88,{"idx":4764,"utterance_id":4765,"speaker_name":68,"text":4766,"start_s":4767,"end_s":4768,"word_count":128,"indexable":73},713,"224608","¿Amnistía total para los condenados del 8 de enero?",3122.56,3124.94,{"idx":4770,"utterance_id":4771,"speaker_name":68,"text":4772,"start_s":4773,"end_s":4774,"word_count":75,"indexable":73},714,"224609","Dosimetría.",3124.98,3125.56,{"idx":4776,"utterance_id":4777,"speaker_name":68,"text":4778,"start_s":4779,"end_s":4780,"word_count":101,"indexable":73},715,"224610","Reducción de la mayoridad penal, ¿en contra o a favor?",3126.64,3131.72,{"idx":4782,"utterance_id":4783,"speaker_name":200,"speaker_slug":201,"text":4784,"start_s":4785,"end_s":4786,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":4787,"target_proposition":4788,"stance":612,"stance_confidence":806,"rationale":4789,"indexable":615},716,"224611","A favor y, además, que no haya mayoridad penal para crímenes hediondos.",3132.2,3135.4,"61006c80-2206-4316-afb4-72fead93dea4","reducir la mayoría de edad penal para ciertos delitos","Dice 'Favor e mais, não haver maioridade penal para crimes 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