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la ciudad queda abandonada.",66.16,71.32,{"idx":93,"utterance_id":94,"speaker_name":52,"text":95,"start_s":96,"end_s":97,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},13,"86341","El viejo, ¿no?",71.66,72.46,{"idx":99,"utterance_id":100,"speaker_name":52,"text":101,"start_s":102,"end_s":103,"word_count":44,"indexable":14},14,"86342","El centro viejo queda abandonado.",73.04,74.7,{"idx":21,"utterance_id":105,"speaker_name":52,"text":106,"start_s":107,"end_s":108,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},"86343","Y cuando empecé a participar del movimiento por la vivienda... Tenemos un marco regulatorio.",75.44,83.24,{"idx":13,"utterance_id":110,"speaker_name":52,"text":111,"start_s":112,"end_s":113,"word_count":114,"indexable":14},"86344","Fue en el auge de la marcha del ICMIL para discutir también la cuestión del ICMS, del 10% del ICMS, que es el impuesto sobre mercancías que todo Estado tiene.",83.64,95.94,28,{"idx":85,"utterance_id":116,"speaker_name":52,"text":117,"start_s":118,"end_s":119,"word_count":67,"indexable":14},"86345","Y esos 10% fueron aprobados para destinarse a vivienda.",96.7,100.3,{"idx":78,"utterance_id":121,"speaker_name":52,"text":122,"start_s":123,"end_s":124,"word_count":125,"indexable":14},"86346","También está la cuestión de que ya se empieza a discutir el Estatuto de la Ciudad, se comienza a discutir el ECA, que es el Estatuto del Niño... Tenemos un marco, las conferencias.",101.26,112.84,32,{"idx":127,"utterance_id":128,"speaker_name":52,"text":129,"start_s":130,"end_s":131,"word_count":78,"indexable":14},19,"86347","En 2000 comienzan los consejos municipales, los consejos de vivienda, tanto a nivel estatal como... 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se legalice, negociando, y la primera negociación comienza con el juez.",243.46,267.6,44,{"idx":174,"utterance_id":251,"speaker_name":52,"text":252,"start_s":253,"end_s":254,"word_count":133,"indexable":14},"86368","Cuando se hace una denuncia policial, de esa denuncia se va a generar un proceso de restitución de la posesión.",267.82,276.26,{"idx":256,"utterance_id":257,"speaker_name":52,"text":258,"start_s":259,"end_s":260,"word_count":93,"indexable":14},41,"86369","Y allí le mostramos al juez por qué ocupamos.",276.32,279.9,{"idx":262,"utterance_id":263,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":264,"start_s":265,"end_s":266,"word_count":78,"indexable":14},42,"86370","Con 10 años, te enfrentas a un enorme desafío, que es cuidar de tus hermanos menores.",281.94,286.62,{"idx":268,"utterance_id":269,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":270,"start_s":271,"end_s":272,"word_count":78,"indexable":14},43,"86371","Sin tu madre, que salió de una situación de violencia doméstica para intentar 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fue 'voy a estar con mi madre.'",307.4,311.58,{"idx":303,"utterance_id":304,"speaker_name":52,"text":305,"start_s":306,"end_s":307,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},49,"86377","Yo y mis hermanos.",312.28,312.72,{"idx":309,"utterance_id":310,"speaker_name":52,"text":311,"start_s":312,"end_s":313,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},50,"86378","¿Se comunicaban?",312.76,314.76,{"idx":315,"utterance_id":316,"speaker_name":52,"text":317,"start_s":318,"end_s":319,"word_count":67,"indexable":14},51,"86379","Fui antes a visitarlos para arreglar su llegada.",314.8,318.76,{"idx":321,"utterance_id":322,"speaker_name":52,"text":323,"start_s":324,"end_s":325,"word_count":99,"indexable":14},52,"86380","Y entonces mi padre viene a ver realmente si yo tengo esa posibilidad de traerlos.",318.84,323.48,{"idx":327,"utterance_id":328,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":329,"start_s":330,"end_s":331,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},53,"86381","Si tenías la posibilidad de 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quedarme cerca de mi madre.",331.52,333.04,{"idx":368,"utterance_id":369,"speaker_name":52,"text":370,"start_s":371,"end_s":372,"word_count":127,"indexable":14},60,"86388","Y ahí empieza todo ese proceso de vivir en una ocupación, de pertenecer, de conocer, de saber lo que era.",334.18,339.02,{"idx":374,"utterance_id":375,"speaker_name":52,"text":376,"start_s":377,"end_s":378,"word_count":221,"indexable":14},61,"86389","Cuando vine de allí, de Salvador para acá, creía que la mujer negra había nacido para tener hijos, casarse y trabajar en un empleo mínimo, sabes, esos trabajos, lo más bajo.",340.36,353.62,{"idx":380,"utterance_id":381,"speaker_name":52,"text":382,"start_s":383,"end_s":384,"word_count":145,"indexable":14},62,"86390","Así que no creía que podría estudiar en la universidad, porque creía que era solo para blancos y solo para la 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punto.",826.74,836.12,{"idx":1147,"utterance_id":1148,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1149,"start_s":1150,"end_s":1151,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},190,"86518","Porque se pueden aclarar las cosas.",836.5,838.62,{"idx":1153,"utterance_id":1154,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1155,"start_s":1156,"end_s":1157,"word_count":50,"indexable":14},191,"86519","¿Qué crees que pasó?",839.5,841.06,{"idx":1159,"utterance_id":1160,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1161,"start_s":1162,"end_s":1163,"word_count":133,"indexable":14},192,"86520","¿Cómo se hizo eso...? Alguien llevó al poder judicial una historia completamente diferente de la que conocemos.",842.14,852.2,{"idx":1165,"utterance_id":1166,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1167,"start_s":1168,"end_s":1169,"word_count":21,"indexable":14},193,"86521","Obviamente, un juez que recibe aquello tiende a confiar en la autoridad que llevó la información.",853.06,859.86,{"idx":1171,"utterance_id":1172,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1173,"start_s":1174,"end_s":1175,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},194,"86522","Muchas veces desconociendo.",860.68,862.28,{"idx":1177,"utterance_id":1178,"speaker_name":52,"text":1179,"start_s":1180,"end_s":1181,"word_count":30,"indexable":14},195,"86523","Eso, equivocado, desconociendo.",862.32,863.48,{"idx":1183,"utterance_id":1184,"speaker_name":8,"speaker_slug":9,"text":1185,"start_s":1186,"end_s":1187,"word_count":37,"indexable":14},196,"86524","¿Cómo ocurrió eso, 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