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But more important than this being quick is that it enter a data processing",1053.62,1066.34,{"idx":1390,"utterance_id":1391,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1392,"start_s":1393,"end_s":1394,"word_count":119,"indexable":72},214,"225655","that will allow the civil police to organize the investigation and the military police.",1066.8,1071.76,{"idx":1396,"utterance_id":1397,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1398,"start_s":1399,"end_s":1400,"word_count":121,"indexable":72},215,"225656","You will locate the receiver of the stolen cell phone.",1071.88,1075.44,{"idx":1402,"utterance_id":1403,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1404,"start_s":1405,"end_s":1406,"word_count":79,"indexable":72},216,"225657","You need to dismantle the reception network.",1075.8,1079.9,{"idx":1408,"utterance_id":1409,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1410,"start_s":1411,"end_s":1412,"word_count":119,"indexable":72},217,"225658","The cell phone's email will be quickly available so that no one buys that cell phone.",1080.52,1086.5,{"idx":1414,"utterance_id":1415,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1416,"start_s":1417,"end_s":1418,"word_count":126,"indexable":72},218,"225659","If that cell phone goes into operation, the person will automatically say where they bought it.",1086.94,1092.04,{"idx":1420,"utterance_id":1421,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1422,"start_s":1423,"end_s":1424,"word_count":4,"indexable":72},219,"225660","the cell phone and know that that cell phone is not legitimate.",1092.84,1095.78,{"idx":1426,"utterance_id":1427,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1428,"start_s":1429,"end_s":1430,"word_count":119,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1431,"target_proposition":1432,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":1434,"indexable":72},220,"225661","In fact, the federal government has already put on the internet the emails of stolen cell phones.",1096.06,1100.66,"64d3ebae-cd2a-48c5-ab62-8988ad9b5dd5","divulgar bases públicas de celulares roubados",0.7,"relata que o governo federal já publicou e-mails de celulares roubados.",{"idx":1436,"utterance_id":1437,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1438,"start_s":1439,"end_s":1440,"word_count":79,"indexable":72},221,"225662","All of this needs agility and speed.",1101.3,1103.34,{"idx":1442,"utterance_id":1443,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1444,"start_s":1445,"end_s":1446,"word_count":140,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":907,"target_proposition":908,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":1447,"indexable":306},222,"225663","And what you see in São Paulo is only slowness.",1104.2,1106.5,"critica lentidão de São Paulo e afirma necessidade de agilidade e rapidez.",{"idx":1449,"utterance_id":1450,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1451,"start_s":1452,"end_s":1453,"word_count":81,"indexable":72},223,"225664","Only slowness.",1107.06,1107.66,{"idx":1455,"utterance_id":1456,"speaker_name":68,"text":1457,"start_s":1458,"end_s":1459,"word_count":146,"indexable":72},224,"225665","Let's already comply and open up a space here for our commentators.",1108.18,1110.84,{"idx":1461,"utterance_id":1462,"speaker_name":68,"text":1463,"start_s":1464,"end_s":1465,"word_count":79,"indexable":72},225,"225666","I'll start with your question, Ellen Brown.",1110.9,1112.6,{"idx":1467,"utterance_id":1468,"speaker_name":68,"text":1469,"start_s":1470,"end_s":1471,"word_count":74,"indexable":72},226,"225667","Welcome.",1112.62,1113.12,{"idx":1473,"utterance_id":1474,"speaker_name":68,"text":1475,"start_s":1476,"end_s":1477,"word_count":81,"indexable":72},227,"225668","Good morning.",1113.28,1113.66,{"idx":1479,"utterance_id":1480,"speaker_name":68,"text":1475,"start_s":1481,"end_s":1482,"word_count":81,"indexable":72},228,"225669",1114.2,1114.78,{"idx":1484,"utterance_id":1485,"speaker_name":68,"text":1486,"start_s":1487,"end_s":1488,"word_count":200,"indexable":72},229,"225670","Candidate, I want to talk a bit about the economy, because the objective economic data bring us something quite curious.",1115.18,1120.56,{"idx":1490,"utterance_id":1491,"speaker_name":68,"text":1492,"start_s":1493,"end_s":1494,"word_count":320,"topic_slug":34,"topic_label":32,"target_id":1495,"target_proposition":1496,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":1497,"indexable":72},230,"225671","We have unemployment at very low levels, a real increase in workers' income, but when we follow qualitative research, what I hear from voters is debt, high prices, difficulty maintaining quality of life.",1120.98,1137.08,"352332cd-2f17-4353-aa0a-5323a29e04c0","melhorar a qualidade de vida da população","relata discrepância entre indicadores econômicos e percepção de qualidade de vida.",{"idx":1499,"utterance_id":1500,"speaker_name":68,"text":1501,"start_s":1502,"end_s":1503,"word_count":86,"indexable":72},231,"225672","You were at the head of the Ministry of Finance and I wanted you to tell me... What is your reading?",1137.64,1143.2,{"idx":1505,"utterance_id":1506,"speaker_name":68,"text":1507,"start_s":1508,"end_s":1509,"word_count":133,"topic_slug":34,"topic_label":32,"target_id":1495,"target_proposition":1496,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":1510,"indexable":72},232,"225673","Why doesn't the improvement in income translate more here in Brazil into an improvement in quality of life, a perception of improved quality of life?",1143.28,1152.72,"pergunta por que renda não se traduz em melhor qualidade de vida (descrição interrogativa).",{"idx":17,"utterance_id":1512,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1513,"start_s":1514,"end_s":1515,"word_count":146,"topic_slug":1516,"topic_label":1517,"target_id":1518,"target_proposition":1519,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1520,"rationale":1521,"indexable":306},"225674","Well, first of all, we took over very messed up accounts from Bolsonaro.",1154.02,1159.2,"financas-municipais","Municipal 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saneamento.",{"idx":1530,"utterance_id":1531,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1532,"start_s":1533,"end_s":1534,"word_count":140,"topic_slug":1516,"topic_label":1517,"target_id":1518,"target_proposition":1519,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":1535,"indexable":72},235,"225676","We are talking about something around 300 billion.",1170.4,1172.86,"fornece estimativa numérica do passivo (relato de dado).",{"idx":1537,"utterance_id":1538,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1539,"start_s":1540,"end_s":1541,"word_count":146,"indexable":72},236,"225677","And I will go point by point to what you refer to.",1174.14,1178.08,{"idx":1543,"utterance_id":1544,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1545,"start_s":1546,"end_s":1547,"word_count":113,"topic_slug":1516,"topic_label":1517,"target_id":1518,"target_proposition":1519,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":1548,"indexable":72},237,"225678","The budget he sent for 2023 already had a deficit of 60-some billion.",1178.52,1185.38,"relata déficit orçamentário enviado ao Congresso (descrição factual).",{"idx":1550,"utterance_id":1551,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1552,"start_s":1553,"end_s":1554,"word_count":95,"indexable":72},238,"225679","Let's round to 60.",1185.9,1187.98,{"idx":1556,"utterance_id":1557,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1558,"start_s":1559,"end_s":1560,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":1516,"topic_label":1517,"target_id":1518,"target_proposition":1519,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":1561,"indexable":72},239,"225680","Then there was a default on precatórios of more than 40.",1188.32,1191.64,"informa sobre calote de precatórios — relato factual sobre 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reivindicando ação do próprio governo.",{"idx":23,"utterance_id":1591,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1592,"start_s":1593,"end_s":1594,"word_count":93,"topic_slug":1516,"topic_label":1517,"target_id":1518,"target_proposition":1519,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":1595,"indexable":72},"225685","The budget that goes to next year, to Congress, goes with a surplus, unlike what Bolsonaro sent to Congress for 2023.",1218.58,1226.78,"compara orçamentos e afirma que o orçamento enviado agora vai com superávit (relato).",{"idx":1597,"utterance_id":1598,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1599,"start_s":1600,"end_s":1601,"word_count":210,"indexable":72},245,"225686","That is, whoever is president will receive in 2027 accounts much better than President Lula received in 2023.",1227.92,1236.38,{"idx":1603,"utterance_id":1604,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1605,"start_s":1606,"end_s":1607,"word_count":95,"indexable":72},246,"225687","So, it's a 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camp with members of the PCC.",1346.34,1353.1,"relata coronéis flagrados com membros do PCC — afirmação factual sobre vínculo.",{"idx":1712,"utterance_id":1713,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1714,"start_s":1715,"end_s":1716,"word_count":42,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1057,"target_proposition":1058,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1520,"rationale":1717,"indexable":306},261,"225702","So, I see many more problems here in the state government than anywhere else, especially because responsibility for public security is constitutionally... the governor's.",1353.92,1366.42,"afirma que atribuição é do governador e que ele deve assumir responsabilidade.",{"idx":1719,"utterance_id":1720,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1721,"start_s":1722,"end_s":1723,"word_count":210,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1724,"target_proposition":1725,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1059,"rationale":1726,"indexable":306},262,"225703","And who should be supporting the security PEC to divide responsibilities with the federal government is the governor, who rejected federal support.",1367.06,1378.78,"a5231021-978f-4396-bbe7-fbad2ef5ab21","approve constitutional amendments on public security","diz que quem deveria apoiar a PEC é o governador, defendendo a medida.",{"idx":1728,"utterance_id":1729,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1730,"start_s":1731,"end_s":1732,"word_count":88,"indexable":72},263,"225704","I don't know why.",1379.5,1380.16,{"idx":1734,"utterance_id":1735,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1736,"start_s":1737,"end_s":1738,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1739,"target_proposition":1740,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":705,"rationale":1741,"indexable":306},264,"225705","The largest operation against organized crime ever carried out was Carbono Oculto, which was sponsored by the Federal Revenue Service, by chance during my ministry.",1380.58,1389.96,"554b78d9-4efe-4a8b-90b3-63d8efd356b8","reduce homicides and combat organized crime","reivindica operação patrocinada por seu ministério como combate ao crime organizado.",{"idx":1743,"utterance_id":1744,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1745,"start_s":1746,"end_s":1747,"word_count":113,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":1748,"target_proposition":1749,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":705,"rationale":1750,"indexable":306},265,"225706","The biggest... the fight against corruption here in the São Paulo City Hall was during my administration.",1390.74,1396.22,"69173589-3c47-41dc-a234-53da52e356ea","combat corruption and impunity","reivindica que o maior combate à corrupção foi da sua gestão municipal (track record).",{"idx":1752,"utterance_id":1753,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1754,"start_s":1755,"end_s":1756,"word_count":133,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":1748,"target_proposition":1749,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":705,"rationale":1757,"indexable":306},266,"225707","The ISS mafia was dismantled, the Roberto Marinho tunnel was suspended, the Feira da Madrugada mafia ended, Controlar stopped that sham vehicle inspection.",1396.72,1409.34,"lista desbaratamento de máfias e ações de sua gestão como defesa de sua atuação.",{"idx":1759,"utterance_id":1760,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1761,"start_s":1762,"end_s":1763,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":30,"topic_label":26,"target_id":1748,"target_proposition":1749,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":932,"rationale":1764,"indexable":72},267,"225708","So, if you look at the history of what the Federal Police did in the country, you'll see that it was during our governments.",1410.06,1419.82,"atribui histórico de atuação da Polícia Federal a governos dos quais participou (reivindicação).",{"idx":1766,"utterance_id":1767,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1768,"start_s":1769,"end_s":1770,"word_count":106,"topic_slug":1771,"topic_label":1772,"target_id":1773,"target_proposition":1774,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":1775,"indexable":306},268,"225709","By contrast, in the Bolsonaro government... what happened was the replacement of ministers, the replacement of the Federal Police director-general, replacement of superintendents, to, as declared by the President of the Republic at the time, protect his sons and his friends.",1420.22,1437.06,"instituicoes","Institutions","4121c270-4bab-48e0-980e-ded1b94b4741","garantir autonomia e imparcialidade das instituições de investigação","critica interferência do governo anterior e defende independência investigativa.",{"idx":1777,"utterance_id":1778,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1779,"start_s":1780,"end_s":1781,"word_count":95,"indexable":72},269,"225710","He stated that publicly.",1437.38,1439.12,{"idx":1783,"utterance_id":1784,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1785,"start_s":1786,"end_s":1787,"word_count":119,"indexable":72},270,"225711","So, I don't see that portrayal; I think it doesn't correspond to the facts.",1439.82,1444.84,{"idx":1789,"utterance_id":1790,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1791,"start_s":1792,"end_s":1793,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1794,"target_proposition":1795,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1796,"rationale":1797,"indexable":306},271,"225712","I think, as I've already said here, if you continue with this degree of impunity, you can increase sentences, lower the age of criminal responsibility.",1445.36,1457.44,"500529d1-b4ae-482d-8a1d-318ae2fe740e","improve criminal investigations and case resolution rates in the states",0.84,"afirma que aumentar penas não resolve enquanto houver impunidade elevada.",{"idx":1799,"utterance_id":1800,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1801,"start_s":1802,"end_s":1803,"word_count":79,"indexable":72},272,"225713","You can do whatever you want.",1457.64,1459.1,{"idx":1805,"utterance_id":1806,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1807,"start_s":1808,"end_s":1809,"word_count":128,"indexable":72},273,"225714","As long as there is impunity in 95% or more of crimes.",1459.74,1466.38,{"idx":1811,"utterance_id":1812,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1813,"start_s":1814,"end_s":1815,"word_count":113,"indexable":72},274,"225715","Imagine, in São Paulo, homicide was resolved in only one out of every three cases.",1467.1,1472.62,{"idx":1817,"utterance_id":1818,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1819,"start_s":1820,"end_s":1821,"word_count":113,"indexable":72},275,"225716","In the developed world, here in the Federal District of Brazil, more than 90% of homicides are solved.",1473.92,1481.34,{"idx":1823,"utterance_id":1824,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1825,"start_s":1826,"end_s":1827,"word_count":108,"indexable":72},276,"225717","In São Paulo it reached 31%.",1481.86,1483.82,{"idx":1829,"utterance_id":1830,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1831,"start_s":1832,"end_s":1833,"word_count":146,"indexable":72},277,"225718","The latest figure I have from Sol da Paz is 31%.",1484,1488.38,{"idx":377,"utterance_id":1835,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1836,"start_s":1837,"end_s":1838,"word_count":175,"indexable":72},"225719","That is, if the governor... I didn't say that I want to be the public security candidate.",1489.08,1493.3,{"idx":1840,"utterance_id":1841,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1842,"start_s":1843,"end_s":1844,"word_count":140,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1845,"target_proposition":1846,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":1847,"indexable":306},279,"225720","I said that I want to be the governor of public security.",1493.86,1496.74,"84ab78cb-ed8c-4c30-bb16-21ce6841158c","prioritize public security in the government plan","declara explicitamente querer ser 'governador da segurança pública'.",{"idx":1849,"utterance_id":1850,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1851,"start_s":1852,"end_s":1853,"word_count":79,"indexable":72},280,"225721","Because there is no public security candidate.",1497.5,1499.46,{"idx":1855,"utterance_id":1856,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1857,"start_s":1858,"end_s":1859,"word_count":175,"indexable":72},281,"225722","Now, when has a candidate presented an executive plan with the level of detail that we presented days ago?",1499.72,1508.04,{"idx":1861,"utterance_id":1862,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1863,"start_s":1864,"end_s":1865,"word_count":95,"indexable":72},282,"225723","When did that happen?",1508.68,1509.74,{"idx":1867,"utterance_id":1868,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1869,"start_s":1870,"end_s":1871,"word_count":88,"indexable":72},283,"225724","In any election.",1510.1,1510.84,{"idx":1873,"utterance_id":1874,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1875,"start_s":1876,"end_s":1877,"word_count":93,"topic_slug":45,"topic_label":41,"target_id":1878,"target_proposition":1879,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1059,"rationale":1880,"indexable":306},284,"225725","So, I want to do a serious job and I, thank God, when I went through the Ministry of Finance and Education, I left things organized.",1511.72,1521.54,"7f47a2da-90db-4c06-8848-31a877519244","improve public management","afirma que deixa órgãos organizados ao assumir cargos (reivindicação de gestão).",{"idx":1882,"utterance_id":1883,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1884,"start_s":1885,"end_s":1886,"word_count":181,"topic_slug":1516,"topic_label":1517,"target_id":1518,"target_proposition":1519,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1520,"rationale":1887,"indexable":306},285,"225726","São Paulo received an investment grade thanks to the fiscal recovery that was carried out in my administration.",1522.76,1529.58,"atribui grau de investimento à recuperação financeira feita em sua gestão.",{"idx":1889,"utterance_id":1890,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1891,"start_s":1892,"end_s":1893,"word_count":119,"indexable":72},286,"225727","São Paulo's master plan is considered one of the best in the world.",1529.92,1532.66,{"idx":1895,"utterance_id":1896,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1897,"start_s":1898,"end_s":1899,"word_count":210,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1900,"target_proposition":1901,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":1902,"indexable":306},287,"225728","And I'm telling you, if that plan I presented days ago is executed... We will have quick results in public security.",1533.46,1541.88,"276321f7-5406-4d71-8440-1f86a42f066a","implement a public security plan","declara que se o plano for executado haverá resultados rápidos na segurança.",{"idx":1904,"utterance_id":1905,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1906,"start_s":1907,"end_s":1908,"word_count":126,"indexable":72},288,"225729","We won't have this feeling of insecurity all over the place — femicide skyrocketing, racism exploding.",1542.28,1548.96,{"idx":1910,"utterance_id":1911,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1912,"start_s":1913,"end_s":1914,"word_count":79,"indexable":72},289,"225730","The numbers are staggering in São Paulo.",1549.9,1553.72,{"idx":1916,"utterance_id":1917,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1918,"start_s":1919,"end_s":1920,"word_count":121,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1921,"target_proposition":1922,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1059,"rationale":1923,"indexable":306},290,"225731","And we need to hold those who are responsible to account.",1554.5,1558.44,"4a2edb32-ee53-4666-8338-aa7114446476","responsabilizar gestores estaduais pela segurança pública","diz que é preciso responsabilizar quem cuida da segurança pública no Estado.",{"idx":1925,"utterance_id":1926,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1927,"start_s":1928,"end_s":1929,"word_count":126,"indexable":72},291,"225732","There is no escaping the accountability of those who are in charge of public security in the State.",1558.74,1563.84,{"idx":1931,"utterance_id":1932,"speaker_name":68,"text":1933,"start_s":1934,"end_s":1935,"word_count":4,"indexable":72},292,"225733","Merreiro, do you want to make just some... a quick point, my friend?",1564.06,1567.52,{"idx":1937,"utterance_id":1938,"speaker_name":68,"text":1939,"start_s":1940,"end_s":1941,"word_count":88,"indexable":72},293,"225734","Yes, briefly, candidate.",1567.56,1569.02,{"idx":1943,"utterance_id":1944,"speaker_name":68,"text":1945,"start_s":1946,"end_s":1947,"word_count":188,"topic_slug":12,"topic_label":8,"target_id":1678,"target_proposition":1679,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1680,"rationale":1948,"indexable":72},294,"225735","Just to refresh your memory, since you said you don't recall this fact that was so serious.",1569.04,1572.84,"relata visita de figura ligada ao tráfico a ministério como fato e pede resposta.",{"idx":1950,"utterance_id":1951,"speaker_name":68,"text":1952,"start_s":1953,"end_s":1954,"word_count":188,"indexable":72},295,"225736","Luciane Barbosa de Farias, known as the \"Dama do Tráfico\", visited the Ministry of Justice in Brasília in 2023.",1573.18,1578.76,{"idx":29,"utterance_id":1956,"speaker_name":68,"text":1957,"start_s":1958,"end_s":1959,"word_count":140,"indexable":72},"225737","It was one of the first major scandals of this third Lula administration.",1579,1583.5,{"idx":1961,"utterance_id":1962,"speaker_name":68,"text":1963,"start_s":1964,"end_s":1965,"word_count":146,"indexable":72},297,"225738","Other members linked to the PCC, NGOs linked to the PCC, also visited ministries.",1583.84,1588.96,{"idx":1967,"utterance_id":1968,"speaker_name":68,"text":1969,"start_s":1970,"end_s":1971,"word_count":140,"indexable":72},298,"225739","So, I would like a somewhat clearer answer.",1589.24,1591.34,{"idx":1973,"utterance_id":1974,"speaker_name":68,"text":1975,"start_s":1976,"end_s":1977,"word_count":121,"indexable":72},299,"225740","Do you consider this an error by the PT?",1593.12,1594.64,{"idx":397,"utterance_id":1979,"speaker_name":68,"text":1980,"start_s":1981,"end_s":1982,"word_count":113,"indexable":72},"225741","Would you not do that if elected governor, or would those people have access to the Palace in the state government?",1595.2,1602.34,{"idx":1984,"utterance_id":1985,"speaker_name":68,"text":1986,"start_s":1987,"end_s":1988,"word_count":140,"indexable":72},301,"225742","Neither access to the Palace, nor access to the General Command of the Military Police.",1602.9,1607.02,{"idx":1990,"utterance_id":1991,"speaker_name":68,"text":1992,"start_s":1993,"end_s":1994,"word_count":126,"indexable":72},302,"225743","Because you should also ask that question of those who are in the state government.",1607.82,1611.76,{"idx":1996,"utterance_id":1997,"speaker_name":68,"text":1998,"start_s":1999,"end_s":2000,"word_count":121,"indexable":72},303,"225744","And you will have the opportunity to do so tomorrow.",1612.94,1614.76,{"idx":2002,"utterance_id":2003,"speaker_name":68,"text":2004,"start_s":2005,"end_s":2006,"word_count":121,"indexable":72},304,"225745","He will still have to stop wearing that cassock.",1614.78,1616,{"idx":2008,"utterance_id":2009,"speaker_name":68,"text":2010,"start_s":2011,"end_s":2012,"word_count":74,"indexable":72},305,"225746","Jess?",1617.12,1617.5,{"idx":33,"utterance_id":2014,"speaker_name":68,"text":2015,"start_s":2016,"end_s":2017,"word_count":81,"indexable":72},"225747","Jess Peixoto.",1617.52,1618.06,{"idx":2019,"utterance_id":2020,"speaker_name":68,"text":2021,"start_s":2022,"end_s":2023,"word_count":95,"indexable":72},307,"225748","Hello, minister, how are you?",1618.08,1620.24,{"idx":2025,"utterance_id":2026,"speaker_name":68,"text":2027,"start_s":2028,"end_s":2029,"word_count":93,"indexable":72},308,"225749","My question is about something that is on everyone's lips in Brazil at the moment and is closely linked to your time at the Ministry of Finance.",1620.3,1628.82,{"idx":2031,"utterance_id":2032,"speaker_name":68,"text":2033,"start_s":2034,"end_s":2035,"word_count":95,"indexable":72},309,"225750","The situation of the bets.",1629.16,1630.42,{"idx":2037,"utterance_id":2038,"speaker_name":68,"text":2039,"start_s":2040,"end_s":2041,"word_count":4,"indexable":72},310,"225751","And here, to be specific, I'll split it into two groups.",1630.54,1634,{"idx":2043,"utterance_id":2044,"speaker_name":68,"text":2045,"start_s":2046,"end_s":2047,"word_count":308,"indexable":72},311,"225752","The bets that come from groups betting on real sporting events, such as football, and online games, virtual slot machines, such as the most well-known example in society, the \"tigrinho\" game.",1634.5,1647.86,{"idx":2049,"utterance_id":2050,"speaker_name":68,"text":2051,"start_s":2052,"end_s":2053,"word_count":175,"indexable":72},312,"225753","When asked about this, you tend to state the fact that this was legalized?",1648.16,1653.86,{"idx":2055,"utterance_id":2056,"speaker_name":68,"text":2057,"start_s":2058,"end_s":2059,"word_count":126,"indexable":72},313,"225754","The part concerning real sports betting, the real events, was legalized under Michel Temer's government.",1653.9,1659.66,{"idx":2061,"utterance_id":2062,"speaker_name":68,"text":2063,"start_s":2064,"end_s":2065,"word_count":186,"indexable":72},314,"225755","But you forget to mention that as for random, chance-based games, those slot machines like the Tigrinho, they were legalized in the Lula government based on a mobilization logic that included the PT's base.",1660.08,1674.7,{"idx":2067,"utterance_id":2068,"speaker_name":68,"text":2069,"start_s":2070,"end_s":2071,"word_count":42,"indexable":72},315,"225756","So much so that the PT, in both houses, defended the amendment that added these games which we know today are a... pandemic, as you yourself called it.",1675.32,1685.74,{"idx":2073,"utterance_id":2074,"speaker_name":68,"text":2075,"start_s":2076,"end_s":2077,"word_count":429,"indexable":72},316,"225757","In retrospect, given that the Ministry of Finance did not veto, there was no suggestion of a veto to President Lula; there was even a report from the Ministry of Finance that was used by one of the rapporteurs in the Chamber of Deputies, which mentioned that it was already known that around 70% of the revenue would come... from these games that do so much harm to society.",1686.24,1710.54,{"idx":2079,"utterance_id":2080,"speaker_name":68,"text":2081,"start_s":2082,"end_s":2083,"word_count":93,"indexable":72},317,"225758","But you believed and defended that the revenue benefit would be extremely high, reaching about 6 billion, if I'm not mistaken, in an interview with Globo News.",1710.96,1721.32,{"idx":420,"utterance_id":2085,"speaker_name":68,"text":2086,"start_s":2087,"end_s":2088,"word_count":113,"indexable":72},"225759","We know the consequences of adding, of not vetoing these things that are harmful to society.",1721.72,1727.54,{"idx":2090,"utterance_id":2091,"speaker_name":68,"text":2092,"start_s":2093,"end_s":2094,"word_count":146,"indexable":72},319,"225760","Do you regret it and think that decision was a mistake?",1727.96,1731.56,{"idx":2096,"utterance_id":2097,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2098,"start_s":2099,"end_s":2100,"word_count":119,"topic_slug":2101,"topic_label":2102,"target_id":2103,"target_proposition":2104,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":2105,"indexable":306},320,"225761","No, actually, I... I'm against electronic gambling of any kind.",1733.26,1737.78,"regulamentacao-do-jogo","Regulamentação do Jogo","6e6ca21e-e8d3-4af6-b5bd-12c8dc5552ba","proibir jogos eletrônicos de azar","declara explicitamente 'sou contra o jogo eletrônico de qualquer tipo'.",{"idx":2107,"utterance_id":2108,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2109,"start_s":2110,"end_s":2111,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":2101,"topic_label":2102,"target_id":2103,"target_proposition":2104,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":2112,"indexable":72},321,"225762","I am not in favor.",1738.32,1739.72,"reafirmação direta: 'Eu não sou a favor'.",{"idx":2114,"utterance_id":2115,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2116,"start_s":2117,"end_s":2118,"word_count":140,"topic_slug":2101,"topic_label":2102,"target_id":2103,"target_proposition":2104,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":2119,"indexable":306},322,"225763","I think Bolsonaro was very wrong to leave everything allowed.",1739.74,1744.2,"critica erro do governo anterior por deixar os jogos liberados.",{"idx":2121,"utterance_id":2122,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2123,"start_s":2124,"end_s":2125,"word_count":95,"indexable":72},323,"225764","It's not just any game.",1744.92,1746.72,{"idx":2127,"utterance_id":2128,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2129,"start_s":2130,"end_s":2131,"word_count":162,"indexable":72},324,"225765","Bolsonaro, to give you an idea, spent four years doing nothing about it.",1747.34,1752.38,{"idx":2133,"utterance_id":2134,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2135,"start_s":2136,"end_s":2137,"word_count":113,"indexable":72},325,"225766","This became an industry that sustains the media, that sustains football teams.",1752.98,1759.64,{"idx":2139,"utterance_id":2140,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2141,"start_s":2142,"end_s":2143,"word_count":119,"indexable":72},326,"225767","I don't know how many media outlets... would survive without betting advertising.",1760.4,1767.14,{"idx":2145,"utterance_id":2146,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2147,"start_s":2148,"end_s":2149,"word_count":9,"indexable":72},327,"225768","And today there is a large media lobby to prevent the end of the bets, because they claim they would go bankrupt without gambling money.",1768.36,1777.78,{"idx":2151,"utterance_id":2152,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2153,"start_s":2154,"end_s":2155,"word_count":27,"indexable":72},328,"225769","Football teams also complain a lot about the possibility of ending the bets, because they say that today they are financed — all the first division teams, the second division teams — are financed by the bets.",1778.34,1792.56,{"idx":2157,"utterance_id":2158,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2159,"start_s":2160,"end_s":2161,"word_count":128,"topic_slug":2101,"topic_label":2102,"target_id":2103,"target_proposition":2104,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":2162,"indexable":306},329,"225770","I don't think it's worth having bets.",1793.02,1794.78,"afirma 'eu acho que não vale a pena ter bete' — posição normativa clara.",{"idx":2164,"utterance_id":2165,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2166,"start_s":2167,"end_s":2168,"word_count":140,"indexable":72},330,"225771","I think Temer was wrong, I think Bolsonaro was wrong.",1795.24,1797.68,{"idx":2170,"utterance_id":2171,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2172,"start_s":2173,"end_s":2174,"word_count":162,"topic_slug":2175,"topic_label":2176,"target_id":2177,"target_proposition":2178,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":2179,"indexable":306},331,"225772","Now, the Ministry of Finance can't leave a legalized activity untaxed.",1798.42,1811.02,"politica-tarifaria","Tariff Policy","16de7448-a670-49f2-a467-1ecf56591d77","tributar apostas e jogos de azar","afirma que a Fazenda não pode deixar atividade legalizada sem tributação.",{"idx":2181,"utterance_id":2182,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2183,"start_s":2184,"end_s":2185,"word_count":128,"indexable":72},332,"225773","Because everyone, I pay taxes, you pay taxes.",1811.6,1814.48,{"idx":2187,"utterance_id":2188,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2189,"start_s":2190,"end_s":2191,"word_count":126,"indexable":72},333,"225774","And this country lived four years under the Bolsonaro government without charging taxes on betting.",1814.94,1821.12,{"idx":2193,"utterance_id":2194,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2195,"start_s":2196,"end_s":2197,"word_count":95,"indexable":72},334,"225775","And letting it run 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betting.",1862.92,1868.56,{"idx":2264,"utterance_id":2265,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2266,"start_s":2267,"end_s":2268,"word_count":95,"indexable":72},345,"225786","This is not illegal.",1869.12,1870,{"idx":2270,"utterance_id":2271,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2272,"start_s":2273,"end_s":2274,"word_count":119,"indexable":72},346,"225787","I'm saying this because you made a provocation and a serious accusation.",1870.6,1875.62,{"idx":2276,"utterance_id":2277,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2278,"start_s":2279,"end_s":2280,"word_count":86,"indexable":72},347,"225788","But I can tell you that in Tarcísio's base... There are many people who work with betting in the National Congress.",1876.24,1883.44,{"idx":2282,"utterance_id":2283,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2284,"start_s":2285,"end_s":2286,"word_count":146,"indexable":72},348,"225789","I was never approached, I never received a PT lawmaker talking about betting.",1883.98,1890.4,{"idx":2288,"utterance_id":2289,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2290,"start_s":2291,"end_s":2292,"word_count":126,"indexable":72},349,"225790","And unfortunately I received lawmakers from the parties in Tarcísio's base who defend betting.",1891,1897.54,{"idx":2294,"utterance_id":2295,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2296,"start_s":2297,"end_s":2298,"word_count":121,"indexable":72},350,"225791","They were even against taxing betting, unfortunately.",1897.94,1902.22,{"idx":2300,"utterance_id":2301,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2302,"start_s":2303,"end_s":2304,"word_count":121,"indexable":72},351,"225792","They wanted that activity to be exempt from tax.",1902.5,1905.82,{"idx":2306,"utterance_id":2307,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2308,"start_s":2309,"end_s":2310,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":2101,"topic_label":2102,"target_id":2103,"target_proposition":2104,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":2311,"indexable":72},352,"225793","And I am against the betes.",1905.98,1907.66,"declaração direta: 'E eu sou contra as betes.'",{"idx":2313,"utterance_id":2314,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2315,"start_s":2316,"end_s":2317,"word_count":128,"topic_slug":2175,"topic_label":2176,"target_id":2177,"target_proposition":2178,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":2318,"indexable":306},353,"225794","And against Bete operating without paying tax.",1908.24,1910.62,"declara oposição a operação das bets sem pagamento de imposto.",{"idx":2320,"utterance_id":2321,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2322,"start_s":2323,"end_s":2324,"word_count":108,"indexable":72},354,"225795","That is my personal position.",1910.7,1912.12,{"idx":2326,"utterance_id":2327,"speaker_name":68,"text":2328,"start_s":2329,"end_s":2330,"word_count":42,"indexable":72},355,"225796","Candidate, during the definition of your candidacy, there was a lot of behind-the-scenes reporting in the press about your lack of willingness to run for the government of the State of São Paulo.",1912.44,1920.52,{"idx":2332,"utterance_id":2333,"speaker_name":68,"text":2334,"start_s":2335,"end_s":2336,"word_count":48,"indexable":72},356,"225797","Some even joked about a coercive candidacy, making a comparison with a coercive escort when a person is taken to testify at the Federal Police.",1921,1930.42,{"idx":2338,"utterance_id":2339,"speaker_name":68,"text":2340,"start_s":2341,"end_s":2342,"word_count":9,"indexable":72},357,"225798","I would 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It takes 11 months for a person to get to a consultation with a specialist.",2105.58,2111.7,{"idx":2535,"utterance_id":2536,"speaker_name":68,"text":2537,"start_s":2538,"end_s":2539,"word_count":79,"indexable":72},389,"225830","People die waiting for an elective surgery.",2111.76,2115.28,{"idx":2541,"utterance_id":2542,"speaker_name":68,"text":2543,"start_s":2544,"end_s":2545,"word_count":121,"indexable":72},390,"225831","Telemedicine implemented also needs human resources.",2115.74,2119.62,{"idx":2547,"utterance_id":2548,"speaker_name":68,"text":2549,"start_s":2550,"end_s":2551,"word_count":119,"indexable":72},391,"225832","What is the practical way to relieve this bottleneck within health?",2119.98,2124.7,{"idx":2553,"utterance_id":2554,"speaker_name":68,"text":2555,"start_s":2556,"end_s":2557,"word_count":101,"indexable":72},392,"225833","Will more doctors be hired?",2124.76,2126.62,{"idx":2559,"utterance_id":2560,"speaker_name":68,"text":2561,"start_s":2562,"end_s":2563,"word_count":162,"indexable":72},393,"225834","Will the private sector step in so as not to hit the civil service cap?",2126.98,2132.12,{"idx":2565,"utterance_id":2566,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2567,"start_s":2568,"end_s":2569,"word_count":21,"indexable":72},394,"225835","Look... 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to get into another one.",2271.32,2276.42,{"idx":2717,"utterance_id":2718,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2719,"start_s":2720,"end_s":2721,"word_count":121,"indexable":72},417,"225858","That's what is happening in São Paulo.",2276.44,2277.82,{"idx":2723,"utterance_id":2724,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2725,"start_s":2726,"end_s":2727,"word_count":162,"indexable":72},418,"225859","You arrived at the consultation queue, you were seen, you will get into another queue.",2278.24,2282.7,{"idx":2729,"utterance_id":2730,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2731,"start_s":2732,"end_s":2733,"word_count":119,"indexable":72},419,"225860","By the time you are seen in the surgery queue, many times years have passed.",2283.34,2287.44,{"idx":2735,"utterance_id":2736,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2737,"start_s":2738,"end_s":2739,"word_count":86,"indexable":72},420,"225861","Candidate, you mentioned the ampação of cash formation and you mentioned the sale of Sabesp, the privatization of Sabesp.",2287.72,2294.06,{"idx":2741,"utterance_id":2742,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":1311,"start_s":2743,"end_s":2744,"word_count":74,"indexable":72},421,"225862",2294.3,2294.42,{"idx":2746,"utterance_id":2747,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2748,"start_s":2749,"end_s":2750,"word_count":95,"topic_slug":2751,"topic_label":2752,"target_id":2753,"target_proposition":2754,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":2755,"indexable":72},422,"225863","Recent research by Dr.",2294.68,2295.54,"privatizacao-e-concessoes","Privatization & Concessions","0ef069a9-6c61-4827-be39-c9d89552510c","privatize companies and public services","reporta pesquisa de opinião sobre privatização (relato de dado e pergunta subsequente).",{"idx":2757,"utterance_id":2758,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2759,"start_s":2760,"end_s":2761,"word_count":162,"indexable":72},423,"225864","Afonso, he said that 54% of... Paulistas are against this privatization, 31% are in favor.",2295.58,2302.1,{"idx":2763,"utterance_id":2764,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2765,"start_s":2766,"end_s":2767,"word_count":162,"topic_slug":2751,"topic_label":2752,"target_id":2768,"target_proposition":2769,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1661,"rationale":2770,"indexable":72},424,"225865","Do you intend, if the contract allows, of course, to retake control of Sabesp or not?",2303.24,2307.92,"f49b66af-109f-4ec1-ac2f-0b6754a5ccfa","retomar o controle da Sabesp","pergunta se, contratualmente possível, ele pretende retomar o controle (interrogação).",{"idx":2772,"utterance_id":2773,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2774,"start_s":2775,"end_s":2776,"word_count":188,"indexable":72},425,"225866","Look, whenever you assume an executive position, you must be very responsible in what you 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sobre negociação com a Vale sem propor ação imediata.",{"idx":2836,"utterance_id":2837,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2838,"start_s":2839,"end_s":2840,"word_count":146,"topic_slug":45,"topic_label":41,"target_id":2841,"target_proposition":2842,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1661,"rationale":2843,"indexable":72},434,"225875","thanks also to the work of Renan Filho, who was his successor.",2355.74,2359.08,"f734724b-825e-4149-9bae-87bab823663a","review public and concession contracts","atribui papel do sucessor na gestão dos contratos, descreve fato.",{"idx":2845,"utterance_id":2846,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2847,"start_s":2848,"end_s":2849,"word_count":128,"topic_slug":2850,"topic_label":2851,"target_id":2852,"target_proposition":2853,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":2854,"indexable":306},435,"225876","I will thoroughly review the contracts of São Paulo.",2359.7,2361.94,"transparencia-e-compromissos-de-governo","Transparency and 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tariffs","critica promessa não cumprida e implica que buscaria redução.",{"idx":2887,"utterance_id":2888,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2889,"start_s":2890,"end_s":2891,"word_count":119,"topic_slug":2850,"topic_label":2851,"target_id":2852,"target_proposition":2853,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":2892,"indexable":306},439,"225880","So, the role of the executive is to really review the contracts.",2386.04,2390.48,"afirma que papel do executivo é 'passar em revista os contratos'.",{"idx":2894,"utterance_id":2895,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2896,"start_s":2897,"end_s":2898,"word_count":326,"topic_slug":2899,"topic_label":2900,"target_id":2852,"target_proposition":2853,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":2901,"indexable":306},440,"225881","Also because, I have to tell you the following, the way the value of contracts in São Paulo has swollen, for me to find budgetary space to invest more in infrastructure, health and education, I will have to do a fine-tooth comb on the contracts.",2390.82,2405.62,"politica-salarial-e-orcamentaria","Salary and Budget Policy","declara que fará 'pente fino' para liberar investimento em áreas sociais.",{"idx":2903,"utterance_id":2904,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2905,"start_s":2906,"end_s":2907,"word_count":296,"topic_slug":1516,"topic_label":1517,"target_id":2908,"target_proposition":2909,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":2910,"indexable":72},441,"225882","I just told you that he, despite having given almost 20 billion in free cash, sold that BESP, received 12 billion from the federal government in the debt renegotiation, he has 5 billion in free cash.",2406.02,2419.98,"c1d01a25-41b1-4b6a-94ff-141873ac2828","ensure responsible fiscal management and transparency in state public accounts","relata números e caixa livre sem propor ação imediata.",{"idx":2912,"utterance_id":2913,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2914,"start_s":2915,"end_s":2916,"word_count":101,"topic_slug":1516,"topic_label":1517,"target_id":2908,"target_proposition":2909,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":2917,"indexable":72},442,"225883","Where did that money go?",2420.94,2422.06,"pergunta retórica 'Para onde foi esse dinheiro?' exigindo transparência.",{"idx":2919,"utterance_id":2920,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2921,"start_s":2922,"end_s":2923,"word_count":95,"topic_slug":1516,"topic_label":1517,"target_id":2908,"target_proposition":2909,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1059,"rationale":2924,"indexable":72},443,"225884","You cannot explain.",2422.34,2424.14,"acusa oposição de não saber explicar destino dos 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concessão de benefícios fiscais","descreve existência de consultorias que influenciam benefícios fiscais.",{"idx":603,"utterance_id":2989,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2990,"start_s":2991,"end_s":2992,"word_count":95,"topic_slug":2983,"topic_label":2984,"target_id":2985,"target_proposition":2986,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1680,"rationale":2993,"indexable":72},"225892","So, there are specialized companies.",2468.88,2471.04,"comenta que existem empresas especializadas em obter benefícios.",{"idx":2995,"utterance_id":2996,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":2997,"start_s":2998,"end_s":2999,"word_count":95,"topic_slug":2983,"topic_label":2984,"target_id":2985,"target_proposition":2986,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1680,"rationale":3000,"indexable":72},452,"225893","in obtaining tax benefits.",2471.5,2473.2,"continua descrição sobre atuação de consultorias 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king's friends.",2496.68,2504.24,{"idx":3037,"utterance_id":3038,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3039,"start_s":3040,"end_s":3041,"word_count":101,"indexable":72},458,"225899","That is the truth.",2504.98,2505.76,{"idx":3043,"utterance_id":3044,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3045,"start_s":3046,"end_s":3047,"word_count":146,"topic_slug":2175,"topic_label":2176,"target_id":3048,"target_proposition":3049,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":3050,"indexable":72},459,"225900","Reviewing tax benefits has nothing to do with a tax increase.",2506.26,2510.26,"913f94b6-49ce-4d95-b3c5-138e3fddd71f","review tax benefits","afirma distinção entre revisão de benefício e aumento de imposto.",{"idx":3052,"utterance_id":3053,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3054,"start_s":3055,"end_s":3056,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":2175,"topic_label":2176,"target_id":3048,"target_proposition":3049,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1661,"rationale":3057,"indexable":72},460,"225901","So much so that his party voted in favor.",2511.04,2513.36,"usa voto do partido como evidência, relata fato político.",{"idx":3059,"utterance_id":3060,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3061,"start_s":3062,"end_s":3063,"word_count":79,"indexable":72},461,"225902","Tarcísio's party voted in favor.",2514.68,2516.14,{"idx":3065,"utterance_id":3066,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3067,"start_s":3068,"end_s":3069,"word_count":119,"indexable":72},462,"225903","So there is that game, you know, of words to try to confuse public opinion.",2516.74,2521.72,{"idx":3071,"utterance_id":3072,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3073,"start_s":3074,"end_s":3075,"word_count":140,"topic_slug":2951,"topic_label":2952,"target_id":3076,"target_proposition":3077,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":3078,"indexable":306},463,"225904","But transparency is needed both in spending and in tax exemptions.",2522.28,2527.38,"7d9b6728-9726-4165-adfd-62d34754fa02","disclose government expenses and acts publicly and transparently","declara necessidade de transparência tanto na despesa quanto em renúncias.",{"idx":3080,"utterance_id":3081,"speaker_name":68,"text":3082,"start_s":3083,"end_s":3084,"word_count":314,"indexable":72},464,"225905","Well, we have 19 more minutes of questioning; I'll hand back to our commentators once more and ask you to be objective in your questions so we can move along and open up more space for questions about the government plan.",2527.92,2538.42,{"idx":3086,"utterance_id":3087,"speaker_name":68,"text":3088,"start_s":3089,"end_s":3090,"word_count":95,"indexable":72},465,"225906","Go ahead, Ellen Brown.",2538.46,2539.6,{"idx":3092,"utterance_id":3093,"speaker_name":68,"text":3094,"start_s":3095,"end_s":3096,"word_count":101,"indexable":72},466,"225907","Let's continue then on the economy.",2539.62,2541.02,{"idx":3098,"utterance_id":3099,"speaker_name":68,"text":3100,"start_s":3101,"end_s":3102,"word_count":198,"topic_slug":1516,"topic_label":1517,"target_id":2931,"target_proposition":2932,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1661,"rationale":3103,"indexable":72},467,"225908","You talk about that contract review of Sabesp, but I wanted to understand, because, for example, the State's own budget, as you mentioned, allows for ambiguous readings.",2541.42,2549.82,"pergunta que relaciona revisão de contrato com leituras do orçamento.",{"idx":3105,"utterance_id":3106,"speaker_name":68,"text":3107,"start_s":3108,"end_s":3109,"word_count":9,"topic_slug":1516,"topic_label":1517,"target_id":3110,"target_proposition":3111,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1680,"rationale":3112,"indexable":72},468,"225909","We talk about a budget deficit, but at the same time, when you look at the sale of Sabesp that year, there was a gain in the coffers.",2549.9,2559.86,"cf98a841-54d2-4f20-b12f-3264f23b950e","usar recursos da venda de estatais para equilibrar o orçamento","observa déficit e ganho de caixa após venda da Sabesp, descrevendo fato.",{"idx":3114,"utterance_id":3115,"speaker_name":68,"text":3116,"start_s":3117,"end_s":3118,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":2861,"topic_label":2862,"target_id":2863,"target_proposition":2864,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1661,"rationale":3119,"indexable":72},469,"225910","Where will the money, the resources, come from for you to run São Paulo if there are no privatizations, if there is a re-nationalization of Sabesp?",2560.32,2568.46,"questiona origem de recursos no cenário sem privatizações\u002Freestatização.",{"idx":3121,"utterance_id":3122,"speaker_name":68,"text":3123,"start_s":3124,"end_s":3125,"word_count":79,"topic_slug":2899,"topic_label":2900,"target_id":3126,"target_proposition":3127,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1680,"rationale":3128,"indexable":72},470,"225911","Where do you intend to get that money?",2568.8,2570.66,"5abfae09-83ed-43fe-af15-050a914c9d68","aumentar receitas ou reduzir despesas do Estado de São Paulo","pergunta aberta sobre de onde viria o dinheiro, sem propor ação clara.",{"idx":3130,"utterance_id":3131,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3132,"start_s":3133,"end_s":3134,"word_count":175,"topic_slug":2861,"topic_label":2862,"target_id":3135,"target_proposition":3136,"stance":949,"stance_confidence":950,"rationale":3137,"indexable":306},471,"225912","It's not true that you should manage the State thinking of selling public assets to raise cash.",2571.86,2577.56,"0806bbe6-36f8-4e4e-8130-d986c9559930","privatize state-owned companies","declara explicitamente que não se deve gerir vendendo patrimônio público.",{"idx":3139,"utterance_id":3140,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3141,"start_s":3142,"end_s":3143,"word_count":128,"indexable":72},472,"225913","I think that concept of economy is mistaken.",2578.3,2580.7,{"idx":3145,"utterance_id":3146,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3147,"start_s":3148,"end_s":3149,"word_count":162,"topic_slug":3150,"topic_label":3151,"target_id":3152,"target_proposition":3153,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":950,"rationale":3154,"indexable":306},473,"225914","I believe private partnerships have to be done thinking about the user of the public service.",2582.92,2589.02,"relacao-estado-setor-privado","State–Private Sector Relations","328cbfa7-f15e-41e0-8652-b05c55f99898","collaborate with the private sector through partnerships and public policies","defende PPPs orientadas ao usuário, não à geração de caixa.",{"idx":3156,"utterance_id":3157,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3158,"start_s":3159,"end_s":3160,"word_count":101,"indexable":72},474,"225915","And not to raise cash.",2589.68,2591,{"idx":3162,"utterance_id":3163,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3164,"start_s":3165,"end_s":3166,"word_count":308,"topic_slug":2861,"topic_label":2862,"target_id":3135,"target_proposition":3136,"stance":949,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":3167,"indexable":306},475,"225916","Because if that's the case, you will end up selling all the country's public assets to look good in the public's eyes, as if you're going to make money, but at the same time your successor won't have assets to sell.",2591.8,2604.92,"alerta que vender patrimônio público leva à privação para sucessores.",{"idx":3169,"utterance_id":3170,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3171,"start_s":3172,"end_s":3173,"word_count":140,"indexable":72},476,"225917","So what is the principle that should govern public administration?",2605.72,2609.86,{"idx":3175,"utterance_id":3176,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3177,"start_s":3178,"end_s":3179,"word_count":162,"topic_slug":3180,"topic_label":3181,"target_id":3182,"target_proposition":3183,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":3184,"indexable":306},477,"225918","You have to have a balanced budget, cut waste, and there is a lot of waste to cut.",2610.4,2615.94,"politica-fiscal-e-social","Fiscal and Social Policy","e3636593-de8a-4d9c-b22a-f56c5ccf1046","implement public spending controls and fiscal austerity policies","propõe orçamento equilibrado e corte de desperdícios como princípio.",{"idx":3186,"utterance_id":3187,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3188,"start_s":3189,"end_s":3190,"word_count":121,"topic_slug":3180,"topic_label":3181,"target_id":3191,"target_proposition":3192,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1059,"rationale":3193,"indexable":306},478,"225919","And create a surplus in the coffers for more investment.",2616.86,2619.24,"0fdb6296-c456-4e2e-abce-9864e3ea5d92","open fiscal space to invest in productivity and public security","defende fazer caixa para mais investimento, não vender ativos.",{"idx":3195,"utterance_id":3196,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3197,"start_s":3198,"end_s":3199,"word_count":140,"topic_slug":2861,"topic_label":2862,"target_id":3135,"target_proposition":3136,"stance":949,"stance_confidence":950,"rationale":3200,"indexable":306},479,"225920","And not sell state-owned companies to plug the hole in your majesty's coffers.",2619.82,2625.8,"repete oposição a venda de estatais para tapar déficit.",{"idx":3202,"utterance_id":3203,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3204,"start_s":3205,"end_s":3206,"word_count":101,"indexable":72},480,"225921","That's the issue.",2627.4,2628.12,{"idx":3208,"utterance_id":3209,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3210,"start_s":3211,"end_s":3212,"word_count":93,"topic_slug":2861,"topic_label":2862,"target_id":3135,"target_proposition":3136,"stance":949,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":3213,"indexable":306},481,"225922","To sell a public asset instead of doing the homework regarding current expenditures — I don't agree with that view.",2628.3,2639,"afirma discordância com vender patrimônio em vez de ajustar despesas.",{"idx":3215,"utterance_id":3216,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3217,"start_s":3218,"end_s":3219,"word_count":21,"topic_slug":2983,"topic_label":2984,"target_id":3220,"target_proposition":3221,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":705,"rationale":3222,"indexable":306},482,"225923","I didn't sell anything while mayor of São Paulo and I ended up with an investment-grade rating.",2639.36,2644.42,"2b57dfdb-7f67-42fd-beca-29b8c4911f28","comply with the Fiscal Responsibility Law 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anything.",2657.74,2658.58,{"idx":3238,"utterance_id":3239,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3240,"start_s":3241,"end_s":3242,"word_count":88,"indexable":72},485,"225926","I didn't sell anything.",2659.52,2660.14,{"idx":3244,"utterance_id":3245,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3246,"start_s":3247,"end_s":3248,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":3180,"topic_label":3181,"target_id":3228,"target_proposition":3229,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":3249,"indexable":72},486,"225927","Now, after the debt renegotiation, investment grew, because a 74-billion-real debt disappeared from the city's balance sheet.",2660.62,2674,"relata efeito da renegociação na capacidade de investimento.",{"idx":3251,"utterance_id":3252,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3253,"start_s":3254,"end_s":3255,"word_count":88,"indexable":72},487,"225928","For two reasons.",2674.4,2675.3,{"idx":3257,"utterance_id":3258,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3259,"start_s":3260,"end_s":3261,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":3180,"topic_label":3181,"target_id":3228,"target_proposition":3229,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":705,"rationale":3262,"indexable":306},488,"225929","One was the renegotiation that I carried out in the National Congress.",2676.2,2679.08,"reivindica ter promovido renegociação no Congresso como ação própria.",{"idx":3264,"utterance_id":3265,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3266,"start_s":3267,"end_s":3268,"word_count":4,"topic_slug":3180,"topic_label":3181,"target_id":3228,"target_proposition":3229,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":3269,"indexable":72},489,"225930","The debt fell from 74 to 27 billion.",2679.76,2683.32,"informa redução do montante da dívida como dado descritivo.",{"idx":3271,"utterance_id":3272,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3273,"start_s":3274,"end_s":3275,"word_count":59,"indexable":72},490,"225931","And the other was a claim from Adhemar de Barros, from the 1950s, that ended now, 70 years later, which liquidated the debt.",2683.76,2691.74,{"idx":3277,"utterance_id":3278,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3279,"start_s":3280,"end_s":3281,"word_count":128,"topic_slug":3180,"topic_label":3181,"target_id":3282,"target_proposition":3283,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1520,"rationale":3284,"indexable":306},491,"225932","And São Paulo is already indebting itself again.",2692.42,2694.2,"11af2081-c6ac-43df-8626-73389d983841","reduce public debt and combat embezzlement\u002Fcorruption to balance the books","alerta que São Paulo está se endividando de novo e critica isso.",{"idx":3286,"utterance_id":3287,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3288,"start_s":3289,"end_s":3290,"word_count":162,"topic_slug":3180,"topic_label":3181,"target_id":3282,"target_proposition":3283,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":3291,"indexable":72},492,"225933","The capital is already owing more than 50 billion after having zeroed out the debt.",2694.22,2697.66,"relata valor da dívida da capital após zeramento anterior.",{"idx":3293,"utterance_id":3294,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3295,"start_s":3296,"end_s":3297,"word_count":175,"topic_slug":3180,"topic_label":3181,"target_id":3298,"target_proposition":3299,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":3300,"indexable":306},493,"225934","So, I think like this: neither overindebt yourself, as is happening with the São Paulo City Hall,",2698.08,2703.92,"5d5a2922-0352-44ef-83ee-54ae2c43c34c","curb the growth of public debt","declara posição contrária a endividamento excessivo da prefeitura.",{"idx":3302,"utterance_id":3303,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3304,"start_s":3305,"end_s":3306,"word_count":146,"topic_slug":2861,"topic_label":2862,"target_id":3135,"target_proposition":3136,"stance":949,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":3307,"indexable":306},494,"225935","nor keep selling assets to plug the hole caused by mismanagement.",2704.46,2709.58,"reafirma oposição a vender patrimônio para cobrir má gestão.",{"idx":3309,"utterance_id":3310,"speaker_name":68,"text":3311,"start_s":3312,"end_s":3313,"word_count":21,"indexable":72},495,"225936","Candidate, I want to talk a little about your education program, which brings interesting details in the sense of proposing a complete review",2710.5,2716.96,{"idx":3315,"utterance_id":3316,"speaker_name":68,"text":3317,"start_s":3318,"end_s":3319,"word_count":119,"indexable":72},496,"225937","of the pedagogical situation, mainly because of the excessive use of screens in teaching.",2717.58,2723.84,{"idx":3321,"utterance_id":3322,"speaker_name":68,"text":3323,"start_s":3324,"end_s":3325,"word_count":128,"indexable":72},497,"225938","And you also talk about valuing teachers.",2724.28,2727.08,{"idx":3327,"utterance_id":3328,"speaker_name":68,"text":3329,"start_s":3330,"end_s":3331,"word_count":93,"indexable":72},498,"225939","Many people talk about valuing teachers, but when they take office they can't actually offer value in monetary terms to teachers.",2727.58,2736.88,{"idx":3333,"utterance_id":3334,"speaker_name":68,"text":3335,"start_s":3336,"end_s":3337,"word_count":210,"indexable":72},499,"225940","How would this proposal to reduce screen time and adapt to a new pedagogical model that also meets teaching demands with proper valuation look?",2737.72,2746.14,{"idx":3339,"utterance_id":3340,"speaker_name":68,"text":3341,"start_s":3342,"end_s":3343,"word_count":128,"indexable":72},500,"225941","In money, in cash, in bufunfa for the teachers.",2746.54,2749.22,{"idx":3345,"utterance_id":3346,"speaker_name":68,"text":3347,"start_s":3348,"end_s":3349,"word_count":88,"indexable":72},501,"225942","Bufunfa is good.",2750.96,2753.72,{"idx":3351,"utterance_id":3352,"speaker_name":68,"text":3353,"start_s":3354,"end_s":3355,"word_count":108,"indexable":72},502,"225943","To be very practical and direct.",2753.74,2755.22,{"idx":3357,"utterance_id":3358,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3359,"start_s":3360,"end_s":3361,"word_count":128,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3362,"target_proposition":3363,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":573,"rationale":3364,"indexable":306},503,"225944","First, the State was wrong from a pedagogical point of view.",2755.32,2762.28,"d43e49e3-b98e-4c38-b362-1753dd29e799","redesign the state pedagogical project and prioritize in-person teaching materials","afirma que o Estado errou pedagogicamente e propõe revisão.",{"idx":3366,"utterance_id":3367,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3368,"start_s":3369,"end_s":3370,"word_count":88,"indexable":72},504,"225945","This is not normal.",2763.82,2764.5,{"idx":3372,"utterance_id":3373,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3374,"start_s":3375,"end_s":3376,"word_count":126,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3377,"target_proposition":3378,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":3379,"indexable":72},505,"225946","A State that was once a leader in education quality is in tenth place.",2765.52,2768.96,"372a3caf-3f99-4f27-96a2-aa2497b7b2a8","improve the quality of education","informa queda relativa de São Paulo no ranking educacional.",{"idx":3381,"utterance_id":3382,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3383,"start_s":3384,"end_s":3385,"word_count":88,"indexable":72},506,"225947","That's not 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slides — you replace the textbook with slides.",2778.9,2783.04,"critica substituição de livros por slides e defende mudança.",{"idx":3407,"utterance_id":3408,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3409,"start_s":3410,"end_s":3411,"word_count":162,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3412,"target_proposition":3413,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1059,"rationale":3414,"indexable":306},510,"225951","This bureaucratization thing — it's not because you have a platform that you're modern.",2783.8,2789.8,"4388a9f0-f158-498f-870f-3daf096a56f5","value teaching activity and avoid its mechanization","critica burocratização via plataformas que ocupa tempo do professor.",{"idx":3416,"utterance_id":3417,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3418,"start_s":3419,"end_s":3420,"word_count":290,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3412,"target_proposition":3413,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":1059,"rationale":3421,"indexable":306},511,"225952","If you bureaucratize filling out the platform as it is today, you are occupying teachers with the precious time to prepare lessons and assess students one by one; you are replacing that with chaos inside the classroom.",2790.46,2805.5,"advoga menos burocracia para permitir preparar aulas e avaliar alunos.",{"idx":3423,"utterance_id":3424,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3425,"start_s":3426,"end_s":3427,"word_count":210,"topic_slug":18,"topic_label":14,"target_id":3428,"target_proposition":3429,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":3430,"indexable":72},512,"225953","A third of São Paulo's schools don't even have sufficient broadband for filling in the platforms that the Secretariat of Education requires.",2806.56,2814.98,"6ca32a43-725a-491a-bd71-ef492e523537","invest in technology in schools","relata falta de banda larga em muitas escolas como problema 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contas.",{"idx":3573,"utterance_id":3574,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3575,"start_s":3576,"end_s":3577,"word_count":9,"indexable":72},534,"225975","The debt renegotiation that the Union made for all the states was not only for São Paulo; it was for all the states, including São Paulo.",2903.7,2912.72,{"idx":3579,"utterance_id":3580,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3581,"start_s":3582,"end_s":3583,"word_count":59,"topic_slug":3180,"topic_label":3181,"target_id":3228,"target_proposition":3229,"stance":931,"stance_confidence":1433,"rationale":3584,"indexable":72},535,"225976","Just to give you an idea, São Paulo is not paying 1 billion in interest per month, 12 billion per year.",2913.12,2921.16,"informa economia com juros resultante da renegociação, descreve 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forward by a member of your party who today runs a specific program for treating addiction to those random online bets, like the 'Tigrinho' game, which were legalized at the cost of revenue under the Lula government.",3002.98,3018.5,{"idx":3710,"utterance_id":3711,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3712,"start_s":3713,"end_s":3714,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":3715,"topic_label":3716,"target_id":3717,"target_proposition":3718,"stance":949,"stance_confidence":304,"rationale":3719,"indexable":72},556,"225997","Look, I'm against gambling.",3019.36,3021.72,"politica-regulatoria","Regulatory Policy","a08ee7db-d6bd-41fb-8e32-e150715b219f","legalizar jogos eletrônicos de apostas (como o Tigrinho)","declara explicitamente 'eu sou contra o jogo'.",{"idx":3721,"utterance_id":3722,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3723,"start_s":3724,"end_s":3725,"word_count":88,"indexable":72},557,"225998","Against 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for sure.",3048,3049.56,{"idx":3795,"utterance_id":3796,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3797,"start_s":3798,"end_s":3799,"word_count":108,"indexable":72},569,"226010","They have an addiction algorithm.",3050,3054.84,{"idx":3801,"utterance_id":3802,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3803,"start_s":3804,"end_s":3805,"word_count":108,"indexable":72},570,"226011","Many people are addicted to Instagram.",3056.32,3058.02,{"idx":3807,"utterance_id":3808,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3809,"start_s":3810,"end_s":3811,"word_count":121,"indexable":72},571,"226012","Being addicted is already bad for your health.",3059,3060.84,{"idx":3813,"utterance_id":3814,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":3815,"start_s":3816,"end_s":3817,"word_count":101,"indexable":72},572,"226013","But imagine that applied to 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government, and you have seemingly limitless financing from BNDES.",3202.08,3209.8,"descreve fontes de financiamento federal e BNDES para obras.",{"idx":4050,"utterance_id":4051,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":4052,"start_s":4053,"end_s":4054,"word_count":108,"topic_slug":4013,"topic_label":4014,"target_id":4055,"target_proposition":4056,"stance":303,"stance_confidence":705,"rationale":4057,"indexable":72},609,"226050","And that's what we recovered.",3209.86,3211.7,"46144ca4-07e5-424f-a04a-720f1ed18bd1","restaurar financiamento federal para infraestrutura via PAC e BNDES","reivindica recuperação de financiamento federal como política aplicada.",{"idx":4059,"utterance_id":4060,"speaker_name":169,"speaker_slug":170,"text":4061,"start_s":4062,"end_s":4063,"word_count":21,"indexable":72},610,"226051","Just to give you an idea, São Paulo received 3 billion in financing under the Bolsonaro government, because Bolsonaro didn't like 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